Oct 7 2010: Special Guest: Jokay Wollongong

October 7th, 2010 | Posted by Ulani David in Transcripts


Topic: Special Guest Jokay Wollongong

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AJ Brooks: Hi everyone, and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable meeting.

AJ Brooks: We meet each week at 2:30pm SLT for an hour.

AJ Brooks: I am thrilled to have, as our very special guest today, Jokay Wollongong

AJ Brooks: We will be using Voice Chat for this meeting. Please remember to keep your microphones muted. If you are having problems hearing, we have someone you can IM for support

Sam55 Chester: waves back at Iggy.

Decka Mah: Aj puts his wineglass down

AJ Brooks: (please do not post support requests in local chat). For support you can contact: Margaret Michalski, who is standing up front here.

Pathfinder Lester: Decka, lol

AJ Brooks: The Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education.

Margaret Michalski: Next to Iggy

AJ Brooks: This is a public meeting, so we do keep and publish a transcript of what is said in local chat. If you’ve not seen the transcripts, you should check them out – they are an excellent information asset.

Bevan Whitfield picks hers up @Decka πŸ™‚

AJ Brooks: The transcripts can be found at our web psite – http://www.vwer.org – select the TRANSCRIPTS tab at the top.

AJ Brooks: Please do visit our site and send along any suggestions to me directly. You will find announcements, articles, and more.

AJ Brooks: The Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable continues to develop a community of educators from around the world with a variety of thoughts, needs, and ideas.

AJ Brooks: Please join the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable group here in SL. You can also find us on Facebook and Flickr by our full name and Twitter @VWER.

AJ Brooks: When you blog or tweet, please remember to use the hashtag #vwer (IM me if you’re not sure what that means)

AJ Brooks: We are thrilled to have Jokay with us today, and we’ll get to that in just a moment. First, just two more quick things and then some thoughts from me before we get started,

AJ Brooks: You are welcome to use the local chat as a back channel, but if you have a question for our guest, we will be using Google Moderator.

AJ Brooks: Google Moderator is a web based tool where you can go to add a question AND/OR vote on questions that have already been posted.

AJ Brooks: The most popular questions will appear on the top of the list, and those are the questions I’ll ask our guests in voice chat.

AJ Brooks: Please note, Jokay and I will NOT be monitoring local chat, so if you’d like a question asked, please post it to Google Moderator (and also vote on the other questions that are there)

Birdie Newcomb: url?

AJ Brooks: There are URL givers on either side of the amphitheater floor and also behind me above the Montclair State sign.

Margaret Michalski: check on while box

AJ Brooks: Click on it and you will get a pop up asking you to open a web page, which will open inside the SL browser (you can also click to open it in a regular web browser)

AJ Brooks: Through this site http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=3838&t=3838.44 you will ask and vote for questions. You do need a Google account to sign in.

AJ Brooks: Finally, if you have Mystitool on, or other similar tool, please put it to sleep or detach it for now. πŸ™‚ It tends to lag things.

AJ Brooks: As most of you know, my name is AJ Kelton and I am the Director, Emerging Instructional Technology for the College of Humanities and Social Sciences at Montclair State University in New Jersey

AJ Brooks:

AJ Brooks: Before Jokay and I get our chat started, I have some thoughts I’d like to share with you.

AJ Brooks: A little under a year ago the SL Education Roundtable made the announcement that, effective January 2010, we would be known as the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable, or VWER.

AJ Brooks: It has been an amazing year since that announcement and an even more awesome 10 months since the official change. So many things have happened.

AJ Brooks: One of the reasons we decided to make this change was to move away from sole reliance on Linden Lab’s product, Second Life, and to focus on the growing field of virtual environments.

AJ Brooks: We had no intention on giving up on Second Life and, as you all well know, we are still meeting here today.

AJ Brooks: The other day, Linden Lab announced that they were discontinuing the discount they previously provided to the education and non-profits sectors.

AJ Brooks: All land purchased after January 1st will be at full price and all maintenance renewals after that same date will, likewise, be at full price.

AJ Brooks: This decision certainly had a huge impact on us as an industry. And although we may hear of compromises on this new structure,

AJ Brooks: we find ourselves once again questioning our value to this company. And lets not forget that important fact, Linden Lab is, above all else, a company…a business entity.

AJ Brooks: The College of Humanities and Social Sciences at Montclair State University currently has two islands here in SL, Montclair State CHSS, which is the next island north of here,

AJ Brooks: and the island we are on right now, Montclair State CHSSSouth. On Tuesday we announced that, effective with our renewal in May, this island, Montclair State CHSSSouth, will not be renewed.

AJ Brooks: That means the CHSSSouth Free Land initiative will be canceled and all 20+ residents will need to find new homes.

AJ Brooks: VWER is included in that and we are, also, in the beginning phase of finding a new home. More details on that will follow.

AJ Brooks: This has renewed my commitment to pursue other non-SL virtual worlds for the VWER.

AJ Brooks: In that light, we are announcing that we are not only looking for a new place to call home here in SL, we will be looking for a home in another virtual world.

AJ Brooks: Which virtual world will depend, in part, on you.

AJ Brooks: I’ve put together a short questionnaire asking which virtual grid YOU would recommend we move to. We’ll leave that open for a couple of weeks,

AJ Brooks: after which we will take all the responses and put the top suggested ones on a survey.

AJ Brooks: This is why its important that you chime in during this first round, only the top suggestions will make it to the survey.

AJ Brooks: Once that survey is ready we will send it out and ask YOU to let us know which grid you’d be willing to meet on. This input will play a critical role in our decision.

AJ Brooks: In order to share your suggestions on which virtual world to be considered, go to this site and complete the questionnaire: http://bit.ly/9ZBCzO

AJ Brooks: If you’d like a copy of these thoughts of mine, they’ve been posted to our web site, http://www.vwer.org. I’ll also put out a notecard giver here.

AJ Brooks: Thanks for being a part of the VWER and lets keep looking forward. What’s next is far more important than what’s happened.

AJ Brooks: Looking forward and thinking about whats next seems a great segue to our topic at hand for today. I am so happy to have Jokay as our guest, welcome Jokay!

Jarrad Voom: Wait I a ma history teacher

AJ Brooks:

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Thanks. The way I generally start is this. We have Jokaydia residents and some new folks. So

Jarrad Voom: British I bet.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Tell us a bit about yourself

Kali Pizzaro: JW- I am the owner & facilitator of the Islands of jokaydia. Visit us @ jokaydia.

Visit our community blog @ http://jokaydia.com for more info!

I provide facilitation, tours, design, building services and support to educators and educational institutions exploring virtual worlds. Feel free to contact me for more info! πŸ˜‰

I’m also the creator of the Sleducation Wiki – an extensive overview of educational projects in Second Life.

Kali Pizzaro: JW- I started in 2006

Jennette Forager claps for Jokay.

Pandora Kurrajong: YAYYYY

Kali Pizzaro: exploring technology for T&L

Pipsqueak Fiddlesticks: wooo!

Kali Pizzaro: JW- my main expertise before VW was in community college

Jackie Rexen: A wiki that got “Banned” by LL – foreshadowing??

Kali Pizzaro: JW_ Sl gave me a chance to put all my skills together although i was not sure i could use it for Teaching

Kali Pizzaro: but then i got more Q from educators which led to what i do now

Kali Pizzaro: starting with sharing resources and then teaching,

AJ Brooks: post your questions here, or vote for questions posted – http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=3838&t=3838.44

Kali Pizzaro: JW- then i tried to change to looking at building communities

Kali Pizzaro: we have 4 sims

Kali Pizzaro: hey hey to all the jokadians

Kali Pizzaro: we provide low cost rental

Kali Pizzaro: and this provides space for mcQuarie Uni but also individuals

Kali Pizzaro: including hey jude

Decka Mah: TAFE = Technical and Further Education (mostly vocation ed)

Kali Pizzaro: and lots of free resources and pointers to good sites

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: 41 on sim

Kali Pizzaro: also teachers without borders in Canada and Africa

Kali Pizzaro: JW- so we have a diverse community

Kali Pizzaro: the main ties are about collaboration

Kali Pizzaro: power in the people
Jokay Visit to VWER

Chimera Cosmos: Jokaydia! Woot!

Pandora Kurrajong: plus meet in RL

Kali Pizzaro: JW_ I have developed amazingly since working in VWs

Jennette Forager: Hooray!!

Rachelle Munro: amen!

Jennette Forager smiles.

Chimera Cosmos: yeah!

Kali Pizzaro: JW- these have developed as friendships as well as educational collaborations

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: it’s an amazingly diverse community

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: You have many irons in the fire

Chimera Cosmos: I chose Jokaydia to settle on precisely because of these things

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: diverse in projects and people

Jarrad Voom: Yeah a little history.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: but first let’s go backward a bit and move on from there

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: to some extent, your name is known from the take-down of your wiki

Pathfinder Lester takes a long drink of scotch

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: LOL Path

Jennette Forager: .hahhaa

Chimera Cosmos: heheh

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Tell us a bit about that

Kali Pizzaro: JW- mmm the infamous wiki debacle

Chimera Cosmos: Path is here…hahah

Bevan Whitfield: *sighs and sips as well*

Kali Pizzaro: JW- about a year ago we got a take down

Ignatius Onomatopoeia sips water (for now). Martini to follow VWER πŸ™‚

Kali Pizzaro: stop using SL in your wiki etc

Bevan Whitfield: πŸ™‚

Kali Pizzaro: this meant we had to move, this was a massive blow to me as

Jennette Forager: It was brilliant.

Chimera Cosmos wants to hear what REALLY happened on the inside from Path…

Kali Pizzaro: educational technologist

Kali Pizzaro: JW- i got great support from the jokadians

Kali Pizzaro: we had a think and we decided

Pathfinder Lester was just following orders

Pandora Kurrajong: of course we supported you! that’s what community does and LL staffers used to SEND people there

Profdan Netizen: OR the money.

Kali Pizzaro: it was not worth the energy

Kali Pizzaro: to fight

Kali Pizzaro: JW- so we made some public statements and tweeted etc

Kali Pizzaro: this caused a bit of a stir

Pandora Kurrajong: So much for the spirit of burning man

LOM Runner: I’m getting jitter from Jokay

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Pandora–exactly

Kali Pizzaro: JW- when we named the wiki it was the days of the lab saying use our name please

Kali Pizzaro: please

Kali Pizzaro: JW- but hey it was a wake up call

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: at that point, you cemented your role as a leader of the community in SL

Chimera Cosmos: Assumed that Path…just wondering what they were really thinking – if anyone thought about the possible outcomes.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: we spent more time than we might have otherwise considering if the same could happen to us

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: At that point, we also began hearing about OS grids

Pandora Kurrajong: But LL showed up at the best practice conference and handed out teddy bears so all was okay… : P

Kali Pizzaro: 43 on the sim for the transcript

Jennette Forager: They lacked community, which Jokay brought there.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia recalls what he blogged…blushes.

Pandora Kurrajong: Proud of what I blogged

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: We decided to move on, rather than dwell on it

Decka Mah: and adding a shot of Tequila

Kali Pizzaro: JW- well i guess i thought

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: A year ago was a turning point for us and Jokay was responsible for it in a positive way

Kali Pizzaro: do i want to scream and yell

Bevan Whitfield: (don’t think tequila and scotch mix)

Kali Pizzaro: or do i want to turn it into something positive

Ignatius Onomatopoeia is not ashamed of *what* I said then, just how.

Chimera Cosmos adds Gin and Tonic to the mix…..mwahahahaha

Kali Pizzaro: JW- thanks to Pandora, Dean and sapphire

Kali Pizzaro: they all looked out and about

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: what a bunch o’ tipplers today

Kali Pizzaro: I knew about RG but it was not

Kali Pizzaro: stable at that point

Kali Pizzaro: but when we returned the welcome was great

Kali Pizzaro: they wanted to listen

Kali Pizzaro: about education

Kali Pizzaro: this gave us energy to recover

Chimera Cosmos: learning is what SL is all about

Kali Pizzaro: so hey ho scary LL lawyers

Jennette Forager: Nothing beats a bit of Virtual Dancing to lift the heart.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: you got involved with RG’s mainland grid

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: as I understand it, Reaction Grid offers a mainland grid and private sims as well

Chimera Cosmos: simS

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: originally, you were on the mainland and then moved to a private grid

Kali Pizzaro: JW- yeah we went and explored

Pandora Kurrajong: GRID – she’s a Grid Goddess

Kali Pizzaro: different sims

Chimera Cosmos: Multi-grid rentals rule!

Kali Pizzaro: JW- but RG were listening
Jokay Visit to VWER
Kali Pizzaro: we started at one sim

Kali Pizzaro: on the main grid environment

Kali Pizzaro: as pioneers

Sapphire Ceawlin: Starting from almost scratch..

Kali Pizzaro: but it was not up to performance

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: 44 on sim

Kali Pizzaro: to run performance

Kali Pizzaro: so we needed to have a space where i could run projects

Kali Pizzaro: so after 3 months

Kali Pizzaro: we upgraded to a 4 sims

Kali Pizzaro: space

Kali Pizzaro: which gives us console

Kali Pizzaro: asset

Kali Pizzaro: and still be connected to Reaction Grid

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: so folks who are on the main RG can get to the Jokaydia grid?

Kali Pizzaro: JW- yes

Kali Pizzaro: but what we have just done recently

Kali Pizzaro: we have upgraded to our own servers

Kali Pizzaro: so we have our own grid

Kali Pizzaro: now

Kali Pizzaro: but still offer me support

Kali Pizzaro: which they are great at

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: So you are separate from the main grid in RG?

Pandora Kurrajong: She’s SO been waiting for that question!

Kali Pizzaro: JW- well what it

Kali Pizzaro: means you can join

Kali Pizzaro: us only

Kali Pizzaro: or you can jump from grid to grid


Pathfinder Lester: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Hypergrid

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: “I have seen the future” πŸ™‚

Kali Pizzaro: so we can jump from the grid to the sim

Kali Pizzaro: if you look south you will see the

Kali Pizzaro: teleport

Jennette Forager: Pretty cool!

Chimera Cosmos: Spiral and I rent on SL Jokaydia but it includes a small space on Jokaydia Grid too

Kali Pizzaro: so we are our own grid but still remained linked to RG

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: I sense a field trip coming on

Jarrad Voom: yes

Jarrad Voom: yes

Rachelle Munro: yes! love field trips!

hobbs Constantine: yes

Zotarah Shepherd: yes

Moggy Madrigal: yes

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: VWER to visit your grid. I wanted to bring up this question

Pandora Kurrajong: Sapphy and I have decided to go in on a whole sim on the Jokaydia Grid

Gramma Fiddlesticks: strongly suggest field trips are in order for several grids

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Now that you are running your own grid, are you leaving SL?

Kali Pizzaro: JW- Absolutely NOT it is the community

Jennette Forager: The community is the gold.

Kali Pizzaro: that i am here

Chimera Cosmos: Hear hear!

Kali Pizzaro: for

hobbs Constantine: awwwwww

AJ Brooks: post your questions here, or vote for questions posted – http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=3838&t=3838.44

Profdan Netizen: Agreed, Jen.

Kali Pizzaro: JW- so we will probably focus less ion Sl

Kali Pizzaro: but never leave

Kali Pizzaro: and will offer

Kali Pizzaro: jokadians

Kali Pizzaro: a plot

Kali Pizzaro: and use all the resources in any of the grids

Kali Pizzaro: the community is the

Kali Pizzaro: thing

Kali Pizzaro: there is still some things that Sl is better at OS
Kali Pizzaro: so we want to maximise

Jennette Forager grins.

Chimera Cosmos: heh

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: We think alike on many things!

Jennette Forager: O pioneers!

Kali Pizzaro: our use of platforms

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: please post your questions to moderator

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: The remarks I made at the start are in a notecard in the black box on the table between us

Sapphire Ceawlin: it gives us access to age appropriate spaces and more objects atm

jokay Wollongong: woot kali and iggy πŸ˜‰

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Kali and that freak in dreads are summarizing what I and Jokay are saying

Zotarah Shepherd: Yay Iggy and Kali

Margaret Michalski: doing a good job too

Jennette Forager: hahha, Iggy!

Chimera Cosmos: doh!

Jozen Ocello: appreciate πŸ™‚

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: this is for folks who cannot hear voice today

Chimera Cosmos: grin

Kali Pizzaro: we get no pay we work all day

Jarrad Voom: loosely summarizing eh Iggy

AJ Brooks: post your questions here, or vote for questions posted – http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=3838&t=3838.44

Jozen Ocello: it rhymes, Kali πŸ™‚

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: We are at an interesting time now. I want to talk about the price increase, but let’s save it for the end

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Please vote on the questions posted.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: One of the things that came up at the start of today is where DO you get your energy? You do so many things

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: If you were to dust off your crystal ball, what is the state of virtual worlds at the moment?

Kali Pizzaro: JW- the pricing has come at a time when educators were

Kali Pizzaro: a bit twitchy

Kali Pizzaro: it has given me a lot of interest in

Kali Pizzaro: OS and policy in Sl

Sapphire Ceawlin: creeping towards tipping point for mainstream

Kali Pizzaro: it has just sped things

Kali Pizzaro: up

Kali Pizzaro: JW_ i see educators as savvy

Kali Pizzaro: they are highly networked

Margaret Michalski: yes…more than I realized

Kali Pizzaro: so folk will listen and collaborate

Kali Pizzaro: JW- i think we can haz very virtual worlds


Kali Pizzaro: we can work in many places

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I gots me a heap o’ them-there lives

Kali Pizzaro: we can have a metaverse for education

Kali Pizzaro: t ensure best practice

Chimera Cosmos: me too – lost count of grids I went to!

Chimera Cosmos: heh

Kali Pizzaro: also with the gaming and mmo’s

Pandora Kurrajong: who?

AJ Brooks: post your questions here, or vote for questions posted – http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=3838&t=3838.44

Jennette Forager: or not so secretly!

Jennette Forager: ha!

Kali Pizzaro: we might be in wow etc but don’t tell anyone

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: hah–paper & pencil RPGs for ol’ me

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: seems like there is great balance to me

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: I hear you saying that “stuff is gonna happen”

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: We have already seen grids vanish in the last year. It’s a fluid market

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: It’s like an investment portfolio that you balance

Chimera Cosmos: Jokay can’t help exploring heheh

Kali Pizzaro: JW- as a developer yes of course

Chimera Cosmos: it is in her genes

Kali Pizzaro: i need to get a understanding of many

Kali Pizzaro: i am a bit of a geek

Kali Pizzaro: oh sorry like technology

Kali Pizzaro: πŸ˜‰

Kali Pizzaro: they strength of the community is what binds us together not the platform

Sapphire Ceawlin: the community is very long lived

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Community is essential. This group, for instance.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: mostly we sit around and talk with each other, not to each other

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: whatever the fate of LL, community is what is important

Margaret Michalski: yes, I hope educators stay a big community

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: I think they will be bought, though I have no inside info on this

Chimera Cosmos: Kim Anubis told me yesterday that she started in There and moved to SL in 2004. Did not know that.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: From my experience in the business world, the recent moves are typical before a buy-out. Of course this is speculation

Sapphire Ceawlin: and an exit strategy to some degree

Pathfinder Lester: ?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: This is why educators need balance and community. They need to explore other options

Pathfinder Lester: here’s that link: http://metaversetv.com/blog/2010/10/mbc-news-universities-and-non-profits/

Kali Pizzaro: JW- i think that is key

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: NBC story…educators bring their constituency with it. Our students follow us when we do something new.
Jokay Visit to VWER
Kali Pizzaro: the great lesson is we cant put all eggs in one basket

Kali Pizzaro: in 2006 it was a bit of a love in

AJ Brooks: post your questions here, or vote for questions posted – http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=3838&t=3838.44

Ignatius Onomatopoeia sings “Love Machine” by the Miracles

Kali Pizzaro: but we need to remember LL is a company

Zotarah Shepherd: Good to have a backup plan in any case.

Kali Pizzaro: we need to be flexible enough

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: coughs

Kali Pizzaro: to move if need be

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Feel free to add more questions and vote on current ones

Kali Pizzaro: look like him

Profdan Netizen: YOu need suspenders.

AJ Brooks sneers at Kali

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Lindy Mac from Seattle asks “what are some of the challenges and opportunities of working in OpenSim?”

You decline Game Night ISTE Island (120, 63, 30) from A group member named Mandie Mimulus.

Kali Pizzaro: JW- flexibility!!

Kali Pizzaro: we make the rules

Kali Pizzaro: we run a pG grid

Kali Pizzaro: all comers welcome

Kali Pizzaro: 9- adults

Pathfinder Lester: i blogged today about my experiences setting up OpenSim on a USB key: http://becunningandfulloftricks.com/2010/10/07/a-virtual-world-in-my-hands-running-opensim-and-imprudence-on-a-usb-key/

Kali Pizzaro: we can parents and kids

Kali Pizzaro: on at the same time

Kali Pizzaro: one of the kids was showing his english teachers

Chimera Cosmos: yes!

Chimera Cosmos: I tell folks about him all the time

Kali Pizzaro: Henny ran a summer school

Kali Pizzaro: they hung out for a week

Kali Pizzaro: in jokadia

Chimera Cosmos: how networking in SL expanded his professional reach so incredibly

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yay for OAR files

Kali Pizzaro: and they did a whole lot of activities

Profdan Netizen: very cool

Kali Pizzaro: and hey is now away on his own

AJ Brooks: post your questions here, or vote for questions posted – http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=3838&t=3838.44\

Pathfinder Lester is totally in love with OAR files

Kali Pizzaro: he has made a logo for new texture business

Kali Pizzaro: you can customise your environment – hey Rob

Kali Pizzaro: we have much more scope for this stuff

Kali Pizzaro: I love the kids they are fantastic

Rob Merchi: hsc is final high school qualification before college / uni in australia

Kali Pizzaro: JW- they blow me away

Kali Pizzaro: JW- challenges – voice

Kali Pizzaro: mumble is on its way

Kali Pizzaro: jokadia is speedy but some are not so speedy

Kali Pizzaro: concurrency can be a challenge

Pathfinder Lester: mesh import will happen on OpenSim soon after LL releases it, too. http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/09/opensim-to-have-mesh-soon-after-second-life/

Kali Pizzaro: scripting is a bit different

Kali Pizzaro: so it it not like for like

Kali Pizzaro: but we are starting to share

Kali Pizzaro: but it is a wee content pool

Margaret Michalski: Yes, some grids can have close to 30 on a sim

Kali Pizzaro: (had to get a wee in somewhere)

Margaret Michalski: yes, lack of scripters

Rob Merchi: az is amazing …

Kali Pizzaro: JW- textures can be a problem but we need to find the solution
Kali Pizzaro: JW – it gives us a opportunity to innovate

Kali Pizzaro: oh typo

Kali Pizzaro: city

Kali Pizzaro: JW – RG has a great market with lots of freebies

Gramma Fiddlesticks: animations!

Kali Pizzaro: and OS had freebie

Kali Pizzaro: store

Pandora Kurrajong: was hard at first

Gramma Fiddlesticks: yep

Kali Pizzaro: JW- animations are a challenge

Kali Pizzaro: but its coming

Pathfinder Lester thinks the most important things in virtual worlds are not things. it’s the people with the talent to create things that matters. and that is portable to any grid.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: every OpenSIm AO for guys has a “swayback” walk….what a hoot.

Pandora Kurrajong: when first on RG was like being shipwrecked – but is changing

Decka Mah: more users will speed up the availability of stuff

Margaret Michalski: new people bring skills with them so those issues should go away

Kali Pizzaro: JW-right Decka

Kali Pizzaro: move folk more stuff

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: next Q from Lisa. “Is it a good idea to transition fully out of SL?”

Kali Pizzaro: JW- i think it is a good idea to be multigrid but not leave SL

Kali Pizzaro: but if the price hike

Chimera Cosmos: rent smaller space at places like Jokaydia and Chilbo

Kali Pizzaro: is causing major worry

Kali Pizzaro: then maybe share space

Gramma Fiddlesticks: spent some toe dipping time already

Kali Pizzaro: JW_ I think you need avatars in other VWs

Kali Pizzaro: pack but don’t leave

LOM Runner: right… no university sims is busy 24/7

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: John Lester just said in his blog that we are pioneers, we are learners

Chimera Cosmos: absolutely

Kali Pizzaro: we could have space plus with timezomes

Pathfinder Lester: this is the blog post AJ is referring to: http://becunningandfulloftricks.com/2010/10/05/with-every-exodus-comes-expansion-educators-and-non-profits-in-second-life/

Kali Pizzaro: zones

Margaret Michalski: I try to look at individual projects

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: We are good at this. We should take this opportunity to research, to continue exploring

Kali Pizzaro: yep AJ

Kali Pizzaro: JW- yeah i agree

Kali Pizzaro: agree

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: We don’t exclude K-12, libraries from our company but we higher ed folks are researchers. This situation is an opportunity to do research. We are good at it.

Kali Pizzaro: educators are great at that and at sharing

Kali Pizzaro: the community then shares

Kali Pizzaro: collective learning

Kali Pizzaro: and sharing as we pioneer

Kali Pizzaro: its fun as well

Sapphire Ceawlin: but that is also a function of the community we are part of

Kali Pizzaro: JW- the opening of horizons is exciting

Kali Pizzaro: JW-

Chimera Cosmos: heh

Kali Pizzaro: JW_ yep a opportunity

Pathfinder Lester still has the scars

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: (bad) Joe asks if Jokay sees the cease-and-desist order as an opportunity and how it has changed her relationship to VWs

Pandora Kurrajong: good

Kali Pizzaro: i was angry but hey i turned it around to a look at it positively

Chimera Cosmos passes some neosporine to Path

Kali Pizzaro: JW- it made me reconnect to my first love of VWs

Kali Pizzaro: building and sharing

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: nice

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: you are the good Jo

Rob Merchi: and jo does build amazing experiences – believe me

Gramma Fiddlesticks: we lose sight of the “majic” that can happen.
Jokay Visit to VWER
Kali Pizzaro: JW- not a massive VW

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Are you planning to expand Jokaydia?

Kali Pizzaro: we have capacity for 80 sims

Kali Pizzaro: and we may upgrade but

Kali Pizzaro: we want to spread our wings

Chimera Cosmos: people who want to be alone should not move to Jokahydia! ahhahah

Kali Pizzaro: and not be tied to one place

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Grinn asks “any sense about how to maintain our community if we disperse to multiple worlds?”

Kali Pizzaro: JW- they key is how we keep the

Kali Pizzaro: connections in SM

Jarrad Voom: And having a central place for meetings like this

Kali Pizzaro: JW_ tweet, wiki etc

Decka Mah: we manage to get together at various f2f conferences around the world why not on various virtual worlds

Sapphire Ceawlin: finding places where we can dance together

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: http://wiki.jokaydia.com

Kali Pizzaro: JW- we can put your project on our wiki

Kali Pizzaro: let me know

Kali Pizzaro: we also are in Rg facebook

Kali Pizzaro: we will also always run events

Kali Pizzaro: bows

Kali Pizzaro: JW- the roundtable is a leader in that also

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Interesting that you mention Facebook and similar

Jozen Ocello: yay!

Kali Pizzaro: woop

Olivia Hotshot: woooohooo!

Decka Mah: wOOt!!

Zotarah Shepherd: Yay!

Zelda Fromund: BRAVO!!!

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: as of four hours ago, VWER in-world group had 450 members. Facebook group for us has 600

Jarrad Voom: wooot wheeeew

Chimera Cosmos: no one chains us anywhere

Bevan Whitfield: well having people ping your group helps *winks*

Decka Mah: SLED email list has thousands

Pandora Kurrajong: The challenge is to aggregate conversations

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Best to have multiple media presence

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I asked how they’ve brought in OAR files into Jokaydia

Kali Pizzaro: JW- we have done a little of that, but we can upload use get rid

Pathfinder Lester: how to find OAR files: http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/faq/where-can-i-get-terrain-region-files-buildings-and-other-content/

LOM Runner: yay Bevan. πŸ™‚

Kali Pizzaro: so we can pack it up and move if need to

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks for that link, Path. I’m going to aggregate them at the start of the transcript

Kali Pizzaro: JW- we hope to have some OAR files for download

Kali Pizzaro: i often say get a build and pull it apart

Chimera Cosmos: yeah! modify!

Kali Pizzaro: and then figure out

Kali Pizzaro: how to use it

Kali Pizzaro: or change it

Pathfinder Lester is a bit rabid about adding contextually relevant links to the open chat.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: that would sure save time when we rebuild House of Usher

Kali Pizzaro: we have not focused on that

Kali Pizzaro: we have focused more on what we need at the moment

Kali Pizzaro: hair

Kali Pizzaro: clothes etc

Ignatius Onomatopoeia thinks we always could use more links in the transcript….folks use them I hear

Kali Pizzaro: you can create a LR and then pack it up and then give it to others via OAR

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: what a great answer…thanks Jokay

Rob Merchi: we use SLoodle on JG as well

Chimera Cosmos: thanks Jokay!

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: our hour is up….went fast!

Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks AJ and Jokay!

Sam55 Chester: great interview

Azzura Supplee: Wooot!

Profdan Netizen: Where are we with shared media in open sim?

Pandora Kurrajong: YAYYYYY

Grinn Pidgeon: thanks, we appreciate all you do

Pathfinder Lester: outstanding discussion. thank you both AJ and jokay!

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: thank you for joining us today. You are a hero to me and I know others feel that way

Achrysalis Metaluna: Thanks AJ & Jokay!

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ: Keep up the great work and come back next year!

Pandora Kurrajong: YAYAYAYAY

Sapphire Ceawlin: Jo makes virtual worlds useable for so many – me especially

Pipsqueak Fiddlesticks claps

Kali Pizzaro: JW- oh thanks its the educators that

Chimera Cosmos: Jokay is fab at staying positive

Kali Pizzaro: make my world great

Zotarah Shepherd: Yay all of us!

Pandora Kurrajong: Yes!

Jozen Ocello: claps πŸ™‚

Kali Pizzaro: come visit us

Ignatius Onomatopoeia needs some positive this week!

Kali Pizzaro: at jokadia.com

Rachelle Munro: thanks!

Pandora Kurrajong: WHOOOOO HOOOOOOO

Kali Pizzaro: feel free to come see us

Decka Mah cheers Yay!! for Jokay

Gramma Fiddlesticks: thanks AJ and Jokay

Bevan Whitfield: ty AJ and Jokay!!!

Olivia Hotshot: yes Joe

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Oh oh. Here comes trouble

LOM Runner: *claps**claps**

Chimera Cosmos knows where to find AJ next week…

Olivia Hotshot: hehehe

Pathfinder Lester: take care, folks. have a good evening.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia will wear a polite shirt

Kali Pizzaro: woooh

Grinn Pidgeon: he makes us answer questions!

Kali Pizzaro: no pressure now

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thank you AJ

Kali Pizzaro: ha

Chimera Cosmos: Iggy, I’ve gotten some requests for your shirt

Azzura Supplee: http://www.jokaydiaGrid.com

Kali Pizzaro: scrabbles about for next ideas

Chimera Cosmos: I modeled it on Facebook LOL

Kali Pizzaro: hehe

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: If you want shirts, let me know

Marc Rexen: Wednesday At Educause. πŸ™‚

Chimera Cosmos accepted your inventory offer.

Jozen Ocello: thanks Jokay and AJ – thanks Iggy and Kali for transcribing

jokay Wollongong: ooo NZ grid is awesome!

Chimera Cosmos accepted your inventory offer.

Kali Pizzaro: your welcome

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ; we’ll be visiting other grids soon

Margaret Michalski: Will there be info posted?

Pandora Kurrajong: Bye!

Rachelle Munro: thanks!

jokay Wollongong: Thanks everyone!!!

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: and we’ll be coming up to the EDUCAUSE meeting next W in multiple grids

Azzura Supplee: cue the music

Decka Mah: /claps

Jarrad Voom: Thanks AJ great job
Jokay Visit to VWER
Kali Pizzaro: cheers all

Profdan Netizen: Excellent discussion.

Jimmie Veeper: thanks folks for a great show

Wrenaria Antiesse: thank you πŸ˜€

Sapphire Ceawlin: Thank you

Jarrad Voom: Thanks Jokay

Decka Mah: thanks Jokay and AJ

Jozen Ocello: thanks πŸ™‚

Pandora Kurrajong: Sapphy – wanna play tonight?

jokay Wollongong: and huge thanks to all the jokaydians here! yaaay you guys! πŸ˜‰

Kali Pizzaro: ok nighty night all

Pandora Kurrajong: Get frosties and then into JG?

Sam55 Chester: Bye all

Chimera Cosmos: G & T

Sapphire Ceawlin: i can try – will be on laptop up country – sounds like a good plan

Profdan Netizen: Guinness!!!

Pandora Kurrajong: Am working on Rob’s script today.

Sapphire Ceawlin: reset is 8.00 pm here now

Decka Mah: farm out the cats Jo and you can camp in our spare room

LOM Runner: Mmmm….mmm.mmm….

LOM Runner: This is TASTEY

Pandora Kurrajong: sounds good – 830pm for me then I guess

Margaret Michalski: bye all

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