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Transcript of the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable August 25, 2011
Topic: “Best Sites for Education in Virtual Worlds”
Iggy’s note: The group astounded me with the excellent suggestions for eductors, veterans and newcomers alike. I’ve tried to aggregate them in a partial list here. I recommend that readers comb through the transcript for even more riches! Here, I’ll note builds by academic subject. Links to other grids and URLs will be in the body of our transcript. If I missed anything, please leave a comment at the end of this post!
All links in the list below were checked before this post ran. Then my fingers fell off. Please let us know for next year any that have changed or vanished!
- Museum Island: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Sunny%20Breezes/211/152/22
- Macbeth Experience: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Macbeth/45/55/54
- Peter Vos Museum: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Turing%20Breezes/161/213/501
- Sistine Chapel at Vassar: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Vassar/167/92/24
- Virtual Ability Island: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Virtual%20Ability/128/128/23
- Evergreen: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Evergreen%20Island/72/168/28
- Mayo Clinic Conference Center East (for presentations): http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mayo%20Clinic/34/195/28
- Mayo Clinic medical examiners http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mayo%20Clinic/34/195/28
- Bookstacks, lots of readings/discussions: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Awen/134/142/25
- US Holocaust Museum Kristalnacht: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/US%20Holocaust%20Museum1/0/34/26
- Virtual Nightmares: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Miami%20University/121/76/297/?title=Virtual%20Segue
- World’s Fair at Reaction Grid: http://39wfblog.1939nyworldsfair.com/category/reaction-grid
- Vietnam War Memorial http://slurl.com/secondlife/The%20Wall/36/28/26
- Cupid’s Cove Field Trip (1610 settlement in Newfoundland): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVY3Z4tr8S4
- Seanchai Library at Imagination Island: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Imagination%20Island/46/211/28
- Camp Darfur: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Better World/192/247/22
- Monash’s Chinese Village http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Monash%20University%202/201/176/26
- Virtual Hajj: http://slurl.com/secondlife/OnIslam/10/55/22
- Infolit School, U Sheffield: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Infolit%20iSchool/113/189/22
- Info Island: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Info%20Island/128/128/2
- Genome Island: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Genome/128/128/48
- Interactive Educational Walk with the Moons Solar System: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Dreamworld%20Tropical/192/32/2502(walk to cave by surf for teleporter)
- http://slurl.com/secondlife/Huffman%20Prairie%20Omega/114/133/61 for the Ayn Rand Space Station
- Theorists Project: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Montclair%20State%20CEHSADP/77/195/23
- U of Cincinnati bookstore: http://slurl.com/secondlife/University%20of%20Cincinnati/108/72/23
- OpenSim regions at TiddlySpace, a partial list for education: http://opensim-regions.tiddlyspace.com/
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Hello everyone and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable!
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We meet each Thursday for an hour here on the Bowling Green State University’s virtual campus.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: *SPECIAL NOTE* starting next week
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: we will meet at our new time, 11:30 am SL Time (pacific time)
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: that’s three hours earlier than this week’s start time.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: that is, btw, for all semester
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: This will be our new regular meeting time.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: The Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Each week we get a wide variety of educators, from seasoned veterans to the newly rezzed.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We have met every week for over three years.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: As we continue, we’d love to have more involvement from more of our participants.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We are looking for moderators for some of our regular weekly meetings. Details can be found here: http://www.vwer.org/?p=1093
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Today’s Topic is our annual Back-to-School Special! Best Sims For Educators
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: This is a public meeting, so we will be keeping and publishing a transcript of what is said in local chat. If you’ve not seen our transcripts, you should check them out – they are an excellent information asset.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: The transcripts can be found at our web site – http://www.vwer.org – select the LIBRARY tab at the top.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Please join the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable group here in SL. If you are on Facebook, please join our group there – Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable.
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Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I’m Joe Essid, Writing Center Director at the University of Richmond. I’m designing an immersive literary build
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: based on Poe’s “Fall of the House of Usher” in Jokaydia Grid.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Sam, you okay?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: So, lets get started and introduce ourselves.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: SpeakEasy HUD detaching…
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): I think so whay?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I saw you fall on the Roundtable!
Kali Pizzaro: Evelyn MCELhinney Glasgow Caledonian University Nurse Educator what i say is my own thoughts blah blah blah
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: might be this crazy Firestorm Viewer!
Liana Hubbenfluff: drunk?
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Oh lol I ned to ake that off
Daring Melody: Alan Haywood EFL teacher and consultant for adding IT tools to classrooms and online work
D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): Barbara Truman, Ctr for Distributed Lrng, UCF, Orlando
Liana Hubbenfluff: hehe
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Chris Robinson, Virtual Assistant, Office of Ed Tech, Georgia Gwinnett College in metro Atlanta
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Dan Holt, Lansing Community College, Lansing, MI. This semester, I’m teaching two sections of fy composition, a section of creative writing and a section of novel writing, all online and in SL.
Wrenaria Antiesse: Kimmy Hescock, Social and Immersive Media Manager, Oregon State University
Delenn Daines: Judy Kelly, Henry Ford Community College, Dearborn MI
Dabici Straulino: Dabici – from Canada, currently working at my master project in Creativity and Change leadership, Buffalo State
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Ashlyn Dugan. I teach writing and composition at NPCC in Arkansas
Tree Kyomoon: Im Ryan Cameron, CTO of SweetRush inc. and board member of the Haberman Educational Foundation www.habermanfoundation.org
Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): Ridvan Ata, PhD candidate at the University of Sheffield, investigation teaching opportunities in SL
Sicily Zapatero: Anna Gadler Pratt Former Teacher Archiocese of NY ~ Graduate University of Washington Certificate in Virtual Worlds Program
Phasma Lexico: Eric Melbye–Miami University (Ohio). I teach composition and creative writing.
AJ (ajome.algoma): ME Odom or Mary artist, Library e-Media Specialist at Dysart USD, Arizona
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: such a crowd! This is great!
Siri Vezina: Mary Anne Carletta, teaching biology and environmental science at Georgetown College, KY
Liana Hubbenfluff: I am a biologist at the design table = BaDT working in biomimicry
Lyr Lobo: Cynthia Calongne, Lyr Lobo, Colorado Technical University, Chair Emerging Media – taught 24 classes, 93 conf presentations on virtual world education and simulations, game design and robotics…
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: anyone else? Keep ’em coming!
Kali Pizzaro: Rivan and Kali representing the UK woop
Kali Pizzaro: Ridvan
Lyr Lobo: yay *grins*
packinrat Furlough: I am Scott Provost of Collegiate Independent Study Inc. Founder of the Free Open University. We are no longer on Second Life but on http://FreeOpenGrid.org We provide Free Regions to all Educators.
Jewle Rae: Barbara Tomlin, CEO Westward Connections ABQ by way of Oregon -art project.
Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): Hi Kali
Texas Braveheart: Texas Gail Raymond – STEM Consultant and Science Content Coach for State of Alaska
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: this will generate a great set of sites for our colleagues…you folks represent every field of study
Kali Pizzaro: Hi Ridvan I also feel your pain PhD
Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): lol
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: anyone else?
Shanti Suntzu: psychologist. Putting together a unit on family life in SL, as part of a larger course for Bethel U.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: going once…
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: twice…
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: SOLD to Hurricane Irene, about to smash me on its way to New York!
Kali Pizzaro: oh
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We have bad storms here already
Liana Hubbenfluff: wow watching….
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: so if I poof, I’ve asked Grizzla to carry on
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: but lets begin
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): LOL
AJ (ajome.algoma): we just have heat warnings…
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Every year, VWER does a
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: favorites night. Today
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: we’ll share sims in SL or elsewhere that are good to know for educators
Kali Pizzaro: 32 on the sim for the transcript
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: everyone might post at once, so compose your ideas now about why the sim is worthwhile
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: and have a SLURL ready
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: or a URL if it is in another grid than SL
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: so who has a must-see site?
Sicily Zapatero: /me raises her hand
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: okies Sicily
Sicily Zapatero: If you haven’t seen Museum Island…I urge you to do so. Creator Carlolello Zapatero – Visit realistic Babilonia construction, Hanging gardens, Petra, Pont du Gard, Ara Pacis, Pompeian house, Agrigento’s temple, Roman sundial, Trojan’s column, Arch of Constantine, Colossus of Rhodes, Temple ruins
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: cool…I can put in the SLURL you gave me
AJ (ajome.algoma): cool
Sicily Zapatero: Absolutely
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: have you taken students yet?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Sunny%20Breezes/211/152/22
Sicily Zapatero: I have students too young for SL…
Sicily Zapatero: But I have shared it with fellow colleagues who are blown away
AJ (ajome.algoma): AJ raises hand to ask some questions
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: ah…but they can “shoulder surf” it.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Go ahead AJ
Esteban Voljeti: raise hand
Esteban’s Google Translator: raise hand
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: if you want to ask Sicily a Q, just go ahead and type it
AJ (ajome.algoma): I am pretty new at the change from teen island
AJ (ajome.algoma): is it true that only 16 and above come here
Sicily Zapatero: That is what TOS requires
AJ (ajome.algoma): ok they can enter mature areas correct?
Tree Kyomoon: for little kids theres always roblox
packinrat Furlough: We can provide you a gree region for any age you like. Just message me.
packinrat Furlough: free
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: it’s a good idea tonight to note any ratings for these sims
AJ (ajome.algoma): ok ty
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): No, 16-17 cannot enter M areas.
Phasma Lexico: hate to be rude, but can i go next? (i have to leave to make supper for my kids in a minute)
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Not till 18.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Sure, Phasma
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Our student assistant told me today that one of his education profs said he wants to take little kids into SL. I sent the prof an email.
AJ (ajome.algoma): I want to get middle school involved
Esteban Voljeti: if you want to see a guide of the best 160 sims in SL… Expedition Central, Timbucks (84, 221, 341) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edf0xurp2Hk
Phasma Lexico: Virtual Segue “Dreams n Nightmares” installation. A brand new project! Segue is the online literary journal of Miami University Middletown. Virtual Segue was created to explore how virtual reality and literature/writing can interact in engaging and productive ways. A recent issue of Segue featured a poem by Nancy Scott titled “My nightmares are like that—“, which was inspired by a Rene Magritte painting. The Dreams n Nightmares installation is a 3D, interactive version of Magritte’s painting. Visitors can walk through and find info on Magritte, surrealism, Nancy Scott and her poetry, dreams, nightmares, and more. Visitors are also encouraged to submit their own research on these subjects in order to create an evolving, interactive repository of information. Info on the web: http://www.mid.muohio.edu/segue/virtualsegue.htm SLurl: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Miami%20University/121/76/297/?title=Virtual%20Segue
AJ (ajome.algoma): don’t know if it is a good idea
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Thank you Esteban and Phasma.
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Sounds very cool. Phasma.
Shanti Suntzu: I think Monash’s Chinese Village http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Monash%20University%202/201/176/26 is a pretty amazing place.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: If you have a link to a 2D site that helps us see content, do paste it in for the transcript
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Tell us a little more about it, Shanti
packinrat Furlough: The http://ai-class.com learners needed a place to program se we set up a sandbox for them
We have an AI Sandbox for Standord Free Course learners set up now.
Kali Pizzaro: take pics folks and post to vwer group on Flickr
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: By the way, if you have a paragraph to describe the sim, as Phasma did, paste that in, too. It helps folks know what to expect
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We have a couple of sites already in arts and international studies
Shanti Suntzu: IThe weblink for the Chinese village is http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Monash%20University%202/201/176/26 It is for language learning, and duplicates a variety of possible settings like airport, stores etc
Oronoque Westland: 36 on the sim for the record
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: how about one from sciences?
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): I have used the CampDarfur Site at A better World for a writing assignment for Comp I
Phasma Lexico: is there a slurl for CampDarfur?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: very cool, Shanti. Mandarin classes are growing here like crazy
Graham Mills: There are some science sites on the Destination Guide, including Genome & Synthetic Biology iirc
Delenn Daines: A great sim for genetics is Genome island Max has created a opy of Mendels gardens and has interactive genetic crosses
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: The SLURL I got was http://slurl.com/secondlife/Better World/192/247/22 for Camp Darfur
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks, kali
packinrat Furlough: shouts: Science sim is full of good science sites as well. http://sciencesim.com <– project of Intel.
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Everyone seems to be on the right track in understanding these basic literary elements , but I want to emphasis that to support our interpretations thanks Iggy
Graham Mills: oh yes, Aaron Duffy’s fernworld (?)
Delenn Daines: Sorry, I donts seem to be able to paste the slurl for genome in the new viewer 3 I’ss share it with you all
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Sorry I have no idea where that came from
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I’ll see if I can get it for you Delenn
Graham Mills: got it wrong: http://fernseed.usu.edu/about
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Genome/128/128/48
Delenn Daines: thanks Iggy
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: you’re welcome Dellen (and Sam
Siri Vezina: thanks, Delenn
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: let’s put it this way…if you could take a new educator to ONE sim
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: what would it be in SL?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: no need for a lengthy explanation…just list your choice
Lyr Lobo: thanks, Delenn…great Babylon 5 name, by the way
Sicily Zapatero: Depends on their needs!
Graham Mills: Frideswide?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Svarga
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): I’d bring them here, Iggy, where else?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: LOL Dan we are the world
Phasma Lexico: i’d definitely take administrators to BGSU
Graham Mills: (that’s the Oxford war poets sim btw
Dabici Straulino: sorry, have to get back to RL now.
Graham Mills: bye Dabici
Delenn Daines: Maya Island – UW Virtual Biodome
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Bringing them to live discussion/events is often more powerful, than exciting builds.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: good point, Phasma…depends on their needs. Graham…excellent point about the WW I poets exhibit
Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): i am wondering if there is an educational island where to teach engineering such as wind power etc.
Sicily Zapatero: Dabici wanted to mention our build at University of Washington’s Virtual Biodome ~ Maya Island
Liana Hubbenfluff: Science Friday
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Web site for the Web archive, including links to the SL content: http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ww1lit/
Shanti Suntzu: The US Holocaust museum has a striking exhibit on Kristalnacht. Well worth exploring URL: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/US%20Holocaust%20Museum1/0/34/26
Sicily Zapatero: Ahh Thank you Delenn !
packinrat Furlough: We have a windpower sim and a full energy engineering server for Energy Ed.
Phasma Lexico: wasn’t someone working on a website repository of info, SL sites, etc., for educators?
Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): i would be grateful if you put the link
Phasma Lexico: there are a lot of websites out there, but not one single source to go to
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Yes Phasmo Clive is
Phasma Lexico: that would be so helpful
Graham Mills: I have a list of edu sims — not quite the same thing
AJ (ajome.algoma): true
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): but I don’t know how far along CLive is
Phasma Lexico: ty sicily
packinrat Furlough: http://grid.freeopengrid.org:9000/wifi <—- Sorry. We can not afford to be on SL: anymore.
Delenn Daines: sorry gtg
Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): thak you pac.
Delenn Daines: see you all later
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: it is a problem for educators…where to find a list of “must sees”
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Bye, Delenn.
Phasma Lexico: not just must-sees, but a comprehensive site of resources for educators
Graham Mills: Sistine Chapel (not sure of the context)
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: well, Jokay’s wiki provided that for a long time
Sicily Zapatero: Sistine Chapel is at the Vassar Sim
Graham Mills: Vushi said they were doing something, I think
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): whispers: Well Estaban’s suggestion of Expedition Central is a good place to start.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yes, Sicily, a great site. I’ll see if I can come up with Jokay’s wiki URL
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): For writerly events (especially poetry and fiction): http://www.writersinthevirtualsky.com/
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Has a google calendar you can add.
Phasma Lexico: yeah! ty profdan
Graham Mills: Does that work for anyone: http://bit.ly/ri33Kr
Graham Mills: Bit dated now
Daring Melody: Did you sleep well
Wrenaria Antiesse: it works
Graham Mills: I’d like to compile a similar list for OpenSim
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: that’s a tough one, Graham
Daring Melody: Sorry. Multitasking and entered text in wrong application
Lyr Lobo: i have a notecard that i use with landmarks… but also have samples of most things on my class islands
packinrat Furlough: The free regions for educators are so much better on FreeOpenGrid. More secure and unlimited prims. We could not resist. OpenSim is Awsome.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: does everyone here know about the Hypergrid Adventurers’ Club?
Lyr Lobo: and am working on holodecks for portfolio rezzers
Graham Mills: Anything Lyr does is awesome by definition
Lyr Lobo: aww you are too kind
Lyr Lobo: my goal is to share their design
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): whispers: I do Iggy
Lyr Lobo: once we have them set up
Zotarah Shepherd: I agree Graham
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I tend to agree with the potential of OpenSim, packinrat, but it’s hard to get there for novices
Kali Pizzaro: for health i would take them to virtual ability http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Virtual%20Ability/128/128/23 Evergreen http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Evergreen%20Island/72/168/28 mayo clinic when they have a presentation http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mayo%20Clinic/34/195/28 and second health and ask Davee Commerce (Dave taylor) to show you what they are doing
Graham Mills: Pharmatopia as well
Kali Pizzaro: yep
Lyr Lobo: lovely
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Virtual ability is an excellent orientation also for students.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: If you have not heard about Pathfinder’s group, you can find more about it at http://becunningandfulloftricks.com/
Marc Rexen: Gentle Heron has done an excellent job sustaining it.
Phasma Lexico: i have to leave, all (but not leave all, thankfully). can’t wait to visit all the great sites everyone’s suggesting!
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: He takes explorers to different OpenSim grids
Graham Mills: afaik it hasn’t met lately, Iggy
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: that’s too bad…he spending too much time in Jibe?
Graham Mills: On a break while Path moves to Montreal and the grids move to 0.7.1.1
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Another writerly sim, Bookstacks, lots of readings/discussions: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Awen/134/142/25
packinrat Furlough: The Waalli project will provide a free Robotic Professor powered by Artificial inteligence and functional on any (non SL) grid.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: ah, just a delay then. Good. It’s a great way to get a lay of the linked grids
Graham Mills: Based on libomv?
AJ (ajome.algoma): I didn’t realize there were so many excellent sims out there
Lyr Lobo: oh yes…
Kali Pizzaro: oh i forgot medical examiners http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mayo%20Clinic/34/195/28
Graham Mills: Some of the OpenSim grid builds are excellent but best suited to small groups of visitors
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: by the way, I cannot recommend this site highly enough for those trying to get started in OpenSim. Open Sim Creations provides free content in the public domain
Kali Pizzaro: but that is the me hehe you get a great big scalpel
Frankie Antonelli: @AJ, yes, more places to visit, learn & have fun
Lyr Lobo: we also use the hostage rescue game simulation, the Ayn Rand Space Station (flight to it in a rocket) and the Mars Expedition Learning Center
Marc Rexen: That’s just the builds, too AJ…same diversity in societies and communities.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: http://opensim-creations.com/
Graham Mills: 1939 NY Worlds Fair is marvelous
Sicily Zapatero: I tried to send everyone a landmark to Museum Island earlier. I just found out that I accidently sent a notecard to someone by mistake. Please let me know if you need the landmark
Graham Mills: on ReactionGrid that one
Kali Pizzaro: lol me
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks Graham…it is phenomenal
Frankie Antonelli: @Lyr, best experience in SL. The hostage game was a lot of fun
D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): @Graham where is the World’s Fair – Reaction Grid?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: the builder really knows the fair…we corresponded about a surviving building here in Richmond that was moved down here
Frankie Antonelli: @Lyr, I wish I could play it again and again
Kali Pizzaro: oh if you want to sit by a loch or a castle and http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Scotland/127/185/30 chat
Graham Mills: Another excellent historical build best suited to small groups is Mount Grace Priory on New World Grid
Al Supercharge: Theres a Interactive Educational Walk with the Moons Solar System: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Dreamworld%20Tropical/192/32/2502
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Also, let’s not forget Info Island, with reference librarans available many hours each week: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Info%20Island/128/128/2
Lyr Lobo: aww frankie *grins*
Kali Pizzaro: woop beat me to it
Daring Melody: Maria Koroleve has just given dozens of places to find content for OpenSIm and a good selection of Grids
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: There is a full-on simulation of GM’s Futurama at the Fair, as well as the Belgian Pavillion
Daring Melody: http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/
Frankie Antonelli: @Lyr, pls sign me up next time you run the game *grins*
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Here’s a link to a site about the World’s Fair at Reaction Grid: http://39wfblog.1939nyworldsfair.com/category/reaction-grid
Kali Pizzaro: to moon walk http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/VADER/135/255/26 i think
Lyr Lobo: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Huffman%20Prairie%20Omega/55,70,25 for the Ayn Rand Space Station – is it in the rocket, 2 seater….
Liana Hubbenfluff: I can’t remember where this Cathedral is sited but it’s great
Graham Mills: Another science one is the Pic du Midi observatory on New World Grid
Liana Hubbenfluff: I think all the sims are educational
Tree Kyomoon: 32
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Got a link to the New World Grid web site?
packinrat Furlough: I love NWG. My region is down until the upgrade but I can’t wait.
D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): @UCF we have a faculty member who made the ’62 World’s Fair in Ogre (sp?)
packinrat Furlough: FreeOpenGrid provides Free New Work Grid hosting but they do ask educators to donate something to new world grid if they use it.
Liana Hubbenfluff: The Tech Museum of Innovation, The Tech (196, 158, 38)
Liana Hubbenfluff: One Climate Island, OneClimate (43, 226, 22)
Sicily Zapatero: NWG?
Graham Mills: There’s a few edu sims listed here
Sicily Zapatero: Anyone have trouble with the ports there?
packinrat Furlough: http://www.newworldgrid.com/
Graham Mills: http://opensim-builds.tiddlyspace.com/
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: NWG = New World Grid
Sheila Yoshikawa: Did anyone mention Muinjij and Cupids, two historical sims?
packinrat Furlough: New World Grid will be great after the Upgrade to 9.1.1
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Go ahead, Sheila
Liana Hubbenfluff: SETI Science RADIO/Multimedia, TovaDok 11 (89, 191, 22(
Tree Kyomoon: great list ! I cant wait to check all these out!
Lyr Lobo: /me grins
Graham Mills: Sydeham Crystal Palace in SL
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yep…if I can get all the SLURLs working XD
AJ (ajome.algoma): me too
Graham Mills: *Sydenham
Sheila Yoshikawa: Muinjij tells the story of a native Canadian, taking pelts to teh sea with his grandfather
Lyr Lobo: watch the last digit
Lyr Lobo: some of the slurs ended in 2…they need 25
Sicily Zapatero: I hope they weill be posted in one spot?
Lyr Lobo: so just add one
Liana Hubbenfluff: West of Ireland Library and Cultural Center (sorry no url)
Sheila Yoshikawa: and Cupids is a recreation of another period in Candaian history
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Sicily, I’ll run this transcript at vwer.org next week
Sicily Zapatero: ㋡
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Cupids is awesome. I made a youtube video about it a week or so ago.
Sheila Yoshikawa: both beautifully done, with activities etc, you can just search for those 2 sim names in the world map
packinrat Furlough: Diva will be indexing all sims some day. I hope their is a way to search by educational topics.
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): West of Ireland–aren’t they now Seanchai Library? http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Imagination%20Island/46/211/28
Kali Pizzaro: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Infolit%20iSchool/113/189/22 great for information Literacy
Kali Pizzaro: smiles at Sheila
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Here’s a completely banal question: when I brought students in, they wanted to visit Freebie stores. Do any good ones still exist that are not griefer-magnets?
Sheila Yoshikawa: TY Kali
Marc Rexen: My turn….:)
Graham Mills: That was the idea behind the TiddlySpace — site — to enable people to construct hypergrid trails–
Marc Rexen: Doing this off the cuff, while here…
However, even Rodvick Linden (Ron Humbolt) the CEO didn’t understand why 16,000 people per day are “new logons” to SL. My interest has always been why do so few stick and to that end, I inhabit the Welcome Areas.
Sheila Yoshikawa: I take mine to the somethingorother bazaar, hold on
packinrat Furlough: http://metaverseink.com/
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVY3Z4tr8S4
Lyr Lobo: do you use boracay’s hitchhiker’s guide to SL?
Marc Rexen: On a periodic survey of “Help Areas,” I ran into the German Newbie Center, or GNC for short. While I don’t speak German, it is clear this is a key place for Germans to get help when they are new. Welcome Areas are tricky as there has to something of interest keeping the old avatars around with a willingness to help new one. Creating and maintaining this “culture” is hard, but it usually depends on a few key individuals.
Lyr Lobo: we still do for freebie sites, exploring etc
Lyr Lobo: tutorials
Marc Rexen: I have noticed, unscientifically, that folks that get “early help in the form they want and appreciate,” do seem to stick around more. This varies with the individual of course. I’ve found success with being quite nice to folks, and in a few cases, calling the person an asshole, then sending them to a place where the other assholes are — and many have gone. I’ve also had more than a few of the “assholes” come back and thank me (even years later) as they realized where I sent them wasn’t filled with assholes, it just “seemed” that way initially :).
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Yadni’s junkyard’s still around, at least it was last spring.
Marc Rexen: Obviously, the Germans have figured it out because this place always seems busy. As I said, while I don’t speak German, it is obvious that those lucky German Newbies who find, or are directed, to the GNC, do well.
Usually, I send English speakers to Gentle Herons Virtual Ability. She’s updated it for V2 and has an “advanced area,” that helps make it seem “better.”
Sorta nice even the owners of the game don’t have a clue as to why it is still working.
Anshe Chung, the millionaire landowner within SL (80 employees) was the focus of a slashdot post today…like a whole new crop of geeks will be “trying VW’s out.”
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Thanks, Dan. I figured he’s hang in there. EnkyThings is still around, but it can be dicey with creeps
Sheila Yoshikawa: The Bazaar: free stuff! *No Sell, Stillman (145, 91, 23)
Marc Rexen: So, the answer to your question is “maybe,” the Linden Welcome areas still have griefer issues, but many of the more private ones don’t.
Lyr Lobo: anyone else need the tour hud, let me know
Lyr Lobo: modifiable so you can adapt your own
Marc Rexen: The “regulars” at the Linden WA’s don’t like the griefers anymore than newbies and do try to “blunt” the effect.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We have 15 minutes more
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: anyone have a site they did not get to share yet?
Sheila Yoshikawa: also Yak & Yeti was still there last time I checked, and I put together links to priced stores that have good quality freebies for new avatars
Frankie Antonelli: @Lyr, I love to gave the tour hud, please
Graham Mills: http://bit.ly/hyperfind was my attempt at a cross-searching tool for some of the freebie websites for opensim
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Do you mean the SL orientation areas? I tried to go back recently to scope it out for our students, and wasn’t permitted to go there.
Marc Rexen: Very few freebies areas within G sims…I only found one weak one when searching.
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): So I think SL is trying to keep those areas safe for newbies – unsuccessfully.
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Virtual ability and Caledon Oxbridge have good orientations.
Marc Rexen: Teens do not have it good.
AJ (ajome.algoma): agreed
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): NCI is good for newbies.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Grizzla, I think the other person meant the welcome areas such as Ahern or Morris—run, don’t walk, away
Graham Mills: NWG has a few freebie areas — Free Market and Crackou Island, for example
Marc Rexen: Issue is, the Lindens do gate people there.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Giant storm here…might crash!
Graham Mills: I believe that some of them are intended for residents-only though
Marc Rexen: If there is a model that works, I’m all ears, and so will the Lindens.
Wrenaria Antiesse: Ohio Learning Network has a great freebie resource area – http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/OLN%20Island/162/174/28 – has clothes, furniture, gadgets, scripts, etc
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks, Wren
Wrenaria Antiesse: its the best I’ve seen
D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): Anyone know a good site for Women’s Studies?
packinrat Furlough: If any educator needs a free OpenSim region, just message me and I will provide.
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Also, freebies at U of Cincinnati bookstore: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/BGSU%20Community/113/126/29
Graham Mills: Isn’t that Ellie Brewster”s field?
Marc Rexen: Peer teaching is most important…intellectual peer, not necessarily age.
Marc Rexen: Age is a “rough” starting point.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: we noted where we might take an educator if we could only go to ONE sim. What would you recommend as a “first stop” on a longer stay in SL?
Al Supercharge: I have an OVERPOPULATION EXPERIENCE exhibit — starts when someone arrives — takes 0 mins to cycle thru — Take the TP from Vulcan Island parcel in my Profile
Marc Rexen: NMC.
Al Supercharge: 10 mins
Graham Mills: ISTE
Sheila Yoshikawa: @ Dlightful, yes, Ellie Brewster is the one to contact for Women’s studies, her island has that as its focus
D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): Thanks Sheila and Graham
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Did anyone mention Virtual Harlem? Is Bryan still running the sims there? I know he downsized b/c of the tier increase
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Haven’t been there in a while.
Wrenaria Antiesse: mostly I show people my own sim as I am OSU hermit and dont get out much, lol
packinrat Furlough: No need for anyone to downsize, If it is educational, we will host it for free.
Wrenaria Antiesse: plus I am usually trying to entice OSU people to commit to new projects
Wrenaria Antiesse: :p
Graham Mills: Oh, DrDoug Pennell’s builds: virtual testis and ovary
Frankie Antonelli: Does anyone know of good practices & sims to learn foreign languages?
Wrenaria Antiesse: I’m excited to check out some of the builds y’all have mentioned today though
D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): Wind kicking up here in Central Florida. Irene brushing by
AJ (ajome.algoma): I want to visit everything lol
Graham Mills: EduNation is the focus for the Slanguages Conference each year
Frankie Antonelli: We are looking into using SL to teach Portuguese and Spanish
Frankie Antonelli: @Graham, ty
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Virtual Harlem is not coming up on the map I fear
Graham Mills: http://slanguages.net
Marc Rexen: If just one place, Sterling Vineyard…Natural Fantasies…easy navigation, mix of sales and gorgeous landscape…nothing disruptive, always nice…the first experience should not be “boring book learning” translated to VW’s.
Silhshoot Seelowe: Vietnam War Memorial http://slurl.com/secondlife/The%20Wall/36/28/26
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I’ll see if I can verify any SLURLs before we go live with the transcript
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: for the last 5 minutes…anyone have questions that did not get answered? Or other sites?
Sicily Zapatero: I’m floored by all that everyone had to contribute! Grazie!
Marc Rexen: Format worked, iggy, off the cuff, casual discussion of sites, etc., etc.
AJ (ajome.algoma): this was excellent! I am glad I came
Sheila Yoshikawa: Thinking about it, I suppose in a way the strength of SL is that it can cater for people who have different ideas of what is interesting, so the ideal “one place” for each person would be different – rather than dragging all the new students etc. off to the same place …
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): The Macbeth site is fun, if it hasn’t been mentioned. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Macbeth/45/55/54
Kali Pizzaro: The museum by Peter Vos is amazing
Sheila Yoshikawa: logistically difficult though
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks, Marc. I’m flying by the seat of my pants in a severe thunderstorm
Sheila Yoshikawa: oh, virtual Haj, was that mentioned?
Marc Rexen: We have gorgeous weather, clear skies, light wind…good night for BBQ’ing.
Kali Pizzaro: let me find the landmark he dedicated it to his father who died of Cancer
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Please do and paste it in, Kali
Siri Vezina: I’ve got to go – thanks, all!
AJ (ajome.algoma): anybody want 114 degree temps?
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Thanks for coming, Siri!
Wrenaria Antiesse: I know the Sistine chapel was mentioned earlier but I dont recall seeing a slurl
Wrenaria Antiesse: Sistine Chapel
Graham Mills: Bye Siri
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I’ll pass, AJ. A hurricane is better I guess
Sheila Yoshikawa: bye
Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): virtual hajj is a great place to visit i’ve been there a couple of times
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Oh what is the slurl? I’d like to go there.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks for that SLURL, Wren. I need to get back. Always sent my students to Vassar
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): (Should I wear a hijab?)
AJ (ajome.algoma): well I’m willing to share
AJ (ajome.algoma): yes
Wrenaria Antiesse: abyone know is the virtual San Francesco di Assisi is stilla round?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I miss the Chebi Mosque…we have lost some really good sites too
Wrenaria Antiesse: that was another stunner
Graham Mills: @Wren — no
Wrenaria Antiesse: sad
AJ (ajome.algoma): yes I know
Kali Pizzaro: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Turing%20Breezes/161/213/501 Peter Vos Museum http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2011/02/sanders-memorial-second-life.html
Sicily Zapatero: SAn Francesco is gone?
Kali Pizzaro: and a story by Wagner Au
Al Supercharge: IM me: anyone wants Notecard on what happens in Walk with the Moons – Solar System ( incl LM)
Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): http://secondlife.com/destination/virtual-hajj
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thank you everyone…AND REMEMBER
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: NEW TIME NEXT WEEK…1130 SLT
AJ (ajome.algoma): ty all
Sheila Yoshikawa: Virtual Hajj, OnIslam (8, 55, 21)
Graham Mills: Anything In SciLands for science basically — I like the Midrivers Project
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Nods and writes that in her calendar Iggy.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks, Sheila…I’ll try to pull up all the SLURLS this weekend
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ will return next week to moderate
Kali Pizzaro: ok 11:30am Slt next week
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: topic TBA
Kali Pizzaro: a roundtable me thinks
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yep
Kali Pizzaro: at 11:30am slt
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: you got it
Kali Pizzaro: right think we have done our bit Iggy
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: did you say 11:30 SLT, Kali?
Kali Pizzaro: i did
Kali Pizzaro: that is slt
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): what time is the meeting next week?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: /me passes you a pint
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): just kidding
Kali Pizzaro: 7:30 pm UK
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): And a.m., right?
Marc Rexen: 1:30 Central time.
Kali Pizzaro: loveley
Liana Hubbenfluff: be safe all!
Sheila Yoshikawa: I think it was 11.30?
AJ (ajome.algoma): you too
Sheila Yoshikawa: at least it’s after the Archers
Liana Hubbenfluff: heads down during the storm!
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): great meeting
Kali Pizzaro: yep 11:30
Frankie Antonelli: you too
Marc Rexen: …slumming on the portable.
Texas Braveheart: Thank you everyone. Very informative.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yes, 11:30 AM SLT it was. Now AJ will know we reminded you 😀
Kali Pizzaro: ok grand i will not be sleeping
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: goodnight all
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Good wishes to all in the hurricane path
D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): thanks and great seeing everyone!
Graham Mills: Glad to see you have yr priorities right, Sheila
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: off into the storm
Silhshoot Seelowe: thank you folks ㋡
Kali Pizzaro: have way through
Wrenaria Antiesse: thanks all
Sheila Yoshikawa: lol
Kali Pizzaro: take care all
Kali Pizzaro: wooopppp
Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): ty all it was great
Kali Pizzaro: stay safe Iggy and all
Daring Melody: Bye all
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): bye, all, see you next week.
AJ (ajome.algoma): bye
Sheila Yoshikawa: bye
Graham Mills: yes, take care all
Lyr Lobo: bye *smiles*
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: hurricane party at my house! Bye all
From Grizzla Pixelmaid:
JimEd mentioned at yesterday’s meeting that he would send me a list of recommended sites for the transcript. These are from the notecard he just sent me inworld:
GREAT WALL OF CHINA – World Heritage Site, China Sichuan (130, 16, 24)
~~Paris 1900 ~~ Moulin rouge ~ champs elysees, Paris 1900 (38, 138, 25)
FRANCE PITTORESQUE French/Accueil/Plage/Francais/
Germany: Goethe-Institut, Goethe Institut (67, 148, 25)
ACROPOLIS ATHENS, GREECE (34, 8, 41)
:: Persian Palace :: G&A furniture & Art :: , Adventure Land (52, 90, 25)
Virtual Native Lands, Native Lands East (211, 32, 22)
Saint Petersburg- Imperial Russia 1805 , Antiquity Pavelhof (209, 194, 23)
Russian Red Square – Moscow Island, Moscow Island (87, 163, 21)
REYNO & CORTE DE ESPANA/ COURT OF SPAIN, Antiquity New Europe (40, 66, 28)
Learn Spanish !!!!, Instituto Espanol (57, 158, 25)
Scottish Highlands – Loch Ness a, Inverness City (192, 63, 1001)
::West of Ireland:: Irish Pub, , West of Ireland (190, 71, 33)
Italia Vera: Milano Vera, Provin, Italia 4 Milano (27, 6, 33)
Sistine Chapel Re-Creation, Vassar (178, 85, 25)
Africa, Africa (199, 143, 26)
Africa Illuminated–The Yoruba L, Africa Illuminated (169, 101, 21)
World Music: Madhu’s Cafe Indien – World Musi, New Toulouse Algiers (153, 160, 29)
TMA- A Jewish Neighborhood in Second life, Nessus (76, 140, 103)
SL Israel, Israel (30, 141, 24)
Wonderful Denmark (166, 128, 22)
SL’s List of Destination Guides to Real Places: