August 25, 2011: Best Sites For Education in Virtual Worlds

August 25th, 2011 | Posted by iggy in Transcripts

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Transcript of the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable August 25, 2011

Topic: “Best Sites for Education in Virtual Worlds”

Iggy’s note: The group astounded me with the excellent suggestions for eductors, veterans and newcomers alike. I’ve tried to aggregate them in a partial list here. I recommend that readers comb through the transcript for even more riches! Here, I’ll note builds by academic subject. Links to other grids and URLs will be in the body of our transcript. If I missed anything, please leave a comment at the end of this post!

All links in the list below were checked before this post ran. Then my fingers fell off. Please let us know for next year any that have changed or vanished!


Health Sciences:


International Studies:

Library Science:

Natural Sciences:

Social Sciences:


Photos by Grizzla. Join our VWER groups at Flickr and Koinup to add your own pictures!

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Hello everyone and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable!

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We meet each Thursday for an hour here on the Bowling Green State University’s virtual campus.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: *SPECIAL NOTE* starting next week

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: we will meet at our new time, 11:30 am SL Time (pacific time)

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: that’s three hours earlier than this week’s start time.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: that is, btw, for all semester

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: This will be our new regular meeting time.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: The Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Each week we get a wide variety of educators, from seasoned veterans to the newly rezzed.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We have met every week for over three years.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: As we continue, weโ€™d love to have more involvement from more of our participants.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We are looking for moderators for some of our regular weekly meetings. Details can be found here:

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Today’s Topic is our annual Back-to-School Special! Best Sims For Educators

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: This is a public meeting, so we will be keeping and publishing a transcript of what is said in local chat. If you’ve not seen our transcripts, you should check them out – they are an excellent information asset.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: The transcripts can be found at our web site – – select the LIBRARY tab at the top.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Please join the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable group here in SL. If you are on Facebook, please join our group there – Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable.

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Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I’m Joe Essid, Writing Center Director at the University of Richmond. I’m designing an immersive literary build

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: based on Poe’s “Fall of the House of Usher” in Jokaydia Grid.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Sam, you okay?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: So, lets get started and introduce ourselves.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: SpeakEasy HUD detaching…

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): I think so whay?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I saw you fall on the Roundtable!

Kali Pizzaro: Evelyn MCELhinney Glasgow Caledonian University Nurse Educator what i say is my own thoughts blah blah blah

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: might be this crazy Firestorm Viewer!

Liana Hubbenfluff: drunk?

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Oh lol I ned to ake that off

Daring Melody: Alan Haywood EFL teacher and consultant for adding IT tools to classrooms and online work

D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): Barbara Truman, Ctr for Distributed Lrng, UCF, Orlando

Liana Hubbenfluff: hehe

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Chris Robinson, Virtual Assistant, Office of Ed Tech, Georgia Gwinnett College in metro Atlanta

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Dan Holt, Lansing Community College, Lansing, MI. This semester, I’m teaching two sections of fy composition, a section of creative writing and a section of novel writing, all online and in SL.

Wrenaria Antiesse: Kimmy Hescock, Social and Immersive Media Manager, Oregon State University

Delenn Daines: Judy Kelly, Henry Ford Community College, Dearborn MI

Dabici Straulino: Dabici – from Canada, currently working at my master project in Creativity and Change leadership, Buffalo State

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Ashlyn Dugan. I teach writing and composition at NPCC in Arkansas

Tree Kyomoon: Im Ryan Cameron, CTO of SweetRush inc. and board member of the Haberman Educational Foundation

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): Ridvan Ata, PhD candidate at the University of Sheffield, investigation teaching opportunities in SL

Sicily Zapatero: Anna Gadler Pratt Former Teacher Archiocese of NY ~ Graduate University of Washington Certificate in Virtual Worlds Program

Phasma Lexico: Eric Melbye–Miami University (Ohio). I teach composition and creative writing.

AJ (ajome.algoma): ME Odom or Mary artist, Library e-Media Specialist at Dysart USD, Arizona

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: such a crowd! This is great!

Siri Vezina: Mary Anne Carletta, teaching biology and environmental science at Georgetown College, KY

Liana Hubbenfluff: I am a biologist at the design table = BaDT working in biomimicry

Lyr Lobo: Cynthia Calongne, Lyr Lobo, Colorado Technical University, Chair Emerging Media – taught 24 classes, 93 conf presentations on virtual world education and simulations, game design and robotics…

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: anyone else? Keep ’em coming!

Kali Pizzaro: Rivan and Kali representing the UK woop

Kali Pizzaro: Ridvan

Lyr Lobo: yay *grins*

packinrat Furlough: I am Scott Provost of Collegiate Independent Study Inc. Founder of the Free Open University. We are no longer on Second Life but on We provide Free Regions to all Educators.

Jewle Rae: Barbara Tomlin, CEO Westward Connections ABQ by way of Oregon -art project.

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): Hi Kali

Texas Braveheart: Texas Gail Raymond – STEM Consultant and Science Content Coach for State of Alaska

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: this will generate a great set of sites for our colleagues…you folks represent every field of study

Kali Pizzaro: Hi Ridvan I also feel your pain PhD

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): lol

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: anyone else?

Shanti Suntzu: psychologist. Putting together a unit on family life in SL, as part of a larger course for Bethel U.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: going once…

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: twice…

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: SOLD to Hurricane Irene, about to smash me on its way to New York!

Kali Pizzaro: oh

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We have bad storms here already

Liana Hubbenfluff: wow watching….

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: so if I poof, I’ve asked Grizzla to carry on

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: but lets begin

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): LOL

AJ (ajome.algoma): we just have heat warnings…

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Every year, VWER does a

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: favorites night. Today

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: we’ll share sims in SL or elsewhere that are good to know for educators

Kali Pizzaro: 32 on the sim for the transcript

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: everyone might post at once, so compose your ideas now about why the sim is worthwhile

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: and have a SLURL ready

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: or a URL if it is in another grid than SL

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: so who has a must-see site?

Sicily Zapatero: /me raises her hand

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: okies Sicily

Sicily Zapatero: If you haven’t seen Museum Island…I urge you to do so. Creator Carlolello Zapatero – Visit realistic Babilonia construction, Hanging gardens, Petra, Pont du Gard, Ara Pacis, Pompeian house, Agrigento’s temple, Roman sundial, Trojan’s column, Arch of Constantine, Colossus of Rhodes, Temple ruins

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: cool…I can put in the SLURL you gave me

AJ (ajome.algoma): cool

Sicily Zapatero: Absolutely

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: have you taken students yet?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia:

Sicily Zapatero: I have students too young for SL…

Sicily Zapatero: But I have shared it with fellow colleagues who are blown away

AJ (ajome.algoma): AJ raises hand to ask some questions

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: ah…but they can “shoulder surf” it.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Go ahead AJ

Esteban Voljeti: raise hand

Esteban’s Google Translator: raise hand

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: if you want to ask Sicily a Q, just go ahead and type it

AJ (ajome.algoma): I am pretty new at the change from teen island

AJ (ajome.algoma): is it true that only 16 and above come here

Sicily Zapatero: That is what TOS requires

AJ (ajome.algoma): ok they can enter mature areas correct?

Tree Kyomoon: for little kids theres always roblox ๐Ÿ™‚

packinrat Furlough: We can provide you a gree region for any age you like. Just message me.

packinrat Furlough: free

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: it’s a good idea tonight to note any ratings for these sims

AJ (ajome.algoma): ok ty

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): No, 16-17 cannot enter M areas.

Phasma Lexico: hate to be rude, but can i go next? (i have to leave to make supper for my kids in a minute)

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Not till 18.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Sure, Phasma

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Our student assistant told me today that one of his education profs said he wants to take little kids into SL. I sent the prof an email. ๐Ÿ™‚

AJ (ajome.algoma): I want to get middle school involved

Esteban Voljeti: if you want to see a guide of the best 160 sims in SL… Expedition Central, Timbucks (84, 221, 341)

Phasma Lexico_001

Phasma Lexico: Virtual Segue โ€œDreams n Nightmaresโ€ installation. A brand new project! Segue is the online literary journal of Miami University Middletown. Virtual Segue was created to explore how virtual reality and literature/writing can interact in engaging and productive ways. A recent issue of Segue featured a poem by Nancy Scott titled โ€œMy nightmares are like thatโ€”โ€œ, which was inspired by a Rene Magritte painting. The Dreams n Nightmares installation is a 3D, interactive version of Magritteโ€™s painting. Visitors can walk through and find info on Magritte, surrealism, Nancy Scott and her poetry, dreams, nightmares, and more. Visitors are also encouraged to submit their own research on these subjects in order to create an evolving, interactive repository of information. Info on the web: SLurl:

AJ (ajome.algoma): don’t know if it is a good idea

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Thank you Esteban and Phasma.

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Sounds very cool. Phasma.

Shanti Suntzu: I think Monash’s Chinese Village is a pretty amazing place.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: If you have a link to a 2D site that helps us see content, do paste it in for the transcript

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Tell us a little more about it, Shanti

packinrat Furlough: The learners needed a place to program se we set up a sandbox for them

We have an AI Sandbox for Standord Free Course learners set up now.

Kali Pizzaro: take pics folks and post to vwer group on Flickr

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: By the way, if you have a paragraph to describe the sim, as Phasma did, paste that in, too. It helps folks know what to expect

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We have a couple of sites already in arts and international studies

Shanti Suntzu: IThe weblink for the Chinese village is It is for language learning, and duplicates a variety of possible settings like airport, stores etc


Oronoque Westland: 36 on the sim for the record

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: how about one from sciences?

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): I have used the CampDarfur Site at A better World for a writing assignment for Comp I

Phasma Lexico: is there a slurl for CampDarfur?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: very cool, Shanti. Mandarin classes are growing here like crazy ๐Ÿ™‚

Graham Mills: There are some science sites on the Destination Guide, including Genome & Synthetic Biology iirc

Delenn Daines: A great sim for genetics is Genome island Max has created a opy of Mendels gardens and has interactive genetic crosses

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: The SLURL I got was World/192/247/22 for Camp Darfur

Graham Mills: ๐Ÿ™‚

Kali Pizzaro:

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks, kali

packinrat Furlough: shouts: Science sim is full of good science sites as well. <– project of Intel.

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Everyone seems to be on the right track in understanding these basic literary elements , but I want to emphasis that to support our interpretations thanks Iggy

Graham Mills: oh yes, Aaron Duffy’s fernworld (?)

Delenn Daines: Sorry, I donts seem to be able to paste the slurl for genome in the new viewer 3 I’ss share it with you all

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Sorry I have no idea where that came from

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I’ll see if I can get it for you Delenn

Graham Mills: got it wrong:

Ignatius Onomatopoeia:

Delenn Daines: thanks Iggy

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: you’re welcome Dellen (and Sam ๐Ÿ™‚

Siri Vezina: thanks, Delenn

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: let’s put it this way…if you could take a new educator to ONE sim

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: what would it be in SL?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: no need for a lengthy explanation…just list your choice

Lyr Lobo: thanks, Delenn…great Babylon 5 name, by the way

Sicily Zapatero: Depends on their needs!

Graham Mills: Frideswide?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Svarga

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): I’d bring them here, Iggy, where else?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: LOL Dan we are the world

Phasma Lexico: i’d definitely take administrators to BGSU

Graham Mills: (that’s the Oxford war poets sim btw

Dabici Straulino: sorry, have to get back to RL now.

Graham Mills: bye Dabici

Delenn Daines: Maya Island – UW Virtual Biodome

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Bringing them to live discussion/events is often more powerful, than exciting builds.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: good point, Phasma…depends on their needs. Graham…excellent point about the WW I poets exhibit

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): i am wondering if there is an educational island where to teach engineering such as wind power etc.

Sicily Zapatero: Dabici wanted to mention our build at University of Washington’s Virtual Biodome ~ Maya Island

Liana Hubbenfluff: Science Friday

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Web site for the Web archive, including links to the SL content:

Shanti Suntzu: The US Holocaust museum has a striking exhibit on Kristalnacht. Well worth exploring URL:

Sicily Zapatero: Ahh Thank you Delenn !

packinrat Furlough: We have a windpower sim and a full energy engineering server for Energy Ed.

Phasma Lexico: wasn’t someone working on a website repository of info, SL sites, etc., for educators?

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): i would be grateful if you put the link

Phasma Lexico: there are a lot of websites out there, but not one single source to go to

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Yes Phasmo Clive is

Phasma Lexico: that would be so helpful

Graham Mills: I have a list of edu sims — not quite the same thing

AJ (ajome.algoma): true

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): but I don’t know how far along CLive is

Phasma Lexico: ty sicily

packinrat Furlough: <—- Sorry. We can not afford to be on SL: anymore.

Delenn Daines: sorry gtg

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): thak you pac.

Delenn Daines: see you all later

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: it is a problem for educators…where to find a list of “must sees”

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Bye, Delenn.

Phasma Lexico: not just must-sees, but a comprehensive site of resources for educators

Graham Mills: Sistine Chapel (not sure of the context)

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: well, Jokay’s wiki provided that for a long time

Sicily Zapatero: Sistine Chapel is at the Vassar Sim

Graham Mills: Vushi said they were doing something, I think

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): whispers: Well Estaban’s suggestion of Expedition Central is a good place to start.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yes, Sicily, a great site. I’ll see if I can come up with Jokay’s wiki URL

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): For writerly events (especially poetry and fiction):

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Has a google calendar you can add.

Phasma Lexico: yeah! ty profdan

Graham Mills: Does that work for anyone:

Graham Mills: Bit dated now

Daring Melody: Did you sleep well

Wrenaria Antiesse: it works

Graham Mills: I’d like to compile a similar list for OpenSim

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: that’s a tough one, Graham

Daring Melody: Sorry. Multitasking and entered text in wrong application

Lyr Lobo: i have a notecard that i use with landmarks… but also have samples of most things on my class islands

packinrat Furlough: The free regions for educators are so much better on FreeOpenGrid. More secure and unlimited prims. We could not resist. OpenSim is Awsome.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: does everyone here know about the Hypergrid Adventurers’ Club?

Lyr Lobo: and am working on holodecks for portfolio rezzers

Graham Mills: Anything Lyr does is awesome by definition

Lyr Lobo: aww you are too kind

Lyr Lobo: my goal is to share their design

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): whispers: I do Iggy

Lyr Lobo: once we have them set up

Zotarah Shepherd: I agree Graham

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I tend to agree with the potential of OpenSim, packinrat, but it’s hard to get there for novices

Kali Pizzaro: for health i would take them to virtual ability Evergreen mayo clinic when they have a presentation and second health and ask Davee Commerce (Dave taylor) to show you what they are doing

Graham Mills: Pharmatopia as well

Kali Pizzaro: yep

Lyr Lobo: lovely

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Virtual ability is an excellent orientation also for students.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: If you have not heard about Pathfinder’s group, you can find more about it at

Marc Rexen: Gentle Heron has done an excellent job sustaining it.

Phasma Lexico: i have to leave, all (but not leave all, thankfully). can’t wait to visit all the great sites everyone’s suggesting!

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: He takes explorers to different OpenSim grids

Graham Mills: afaik it hasn’t met lately, Iggy

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: that’s too bad…he spending too much time in Jibe?

Graham Mills: On a break while Path moves to Montreal and the grids move to

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Another writerly sim, Bookstacks, lots of readings/discussions:

packinrat Furlough: The Waalli project will provide a free Robotic Professor powered by Artificial inteligence and functional on any (non SL) grid.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: ah, just a delay then. Good. It’s a great way to get a lay of the linked grids

Graham Mills: Based on libomv?

AJ (ajome.algoma): I didn’t realize there were so many excellent sims out there

Lyr Lobo: oh yes…

Kali Pizzaro: oh i forgot medical examiners

Graham Mills: Some of the OpenSim grid builds are excellent but best suited to small groups of visitors

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: by the way, I cannot recommend this site highly enough for those trying to get started in OpenSim. Open Sim Creations provides free content in the public domain

Kali, Tree.Kyomoon, Ig_001

Kali Pizzaro: but that is the me hehe you get a great big scalpel

Frankie Antonelli: @AJ, yes, more places to visit, learn & have fun

Lyr Lobo: we also use the hostage rescue game simulation, the Ayn Rand Space Station (flight to it in a rocket) and the Mars Expedition Learning Center

Marc Rexen: That’s just the builds, too AJ…same diversity in societies and communities.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia:

Graham Mills: 1939 NY Worlds Fair is marvelous

Sicily Zapatero: I tried to send everyone a landmark to Museum Island earlier. I just found out that I accidently sent a notecard to someone by mistake. Please let me know if you need the landmark

Graham Mills: on ReactionGrid that one

Kali Pizzaro: lol me

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks Graham…it is phenomenal

Frankie Antonelli: @Lyr, best experience in SL. The hostage game was a lot of fun

D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): @Graham where is the World’s Fair – Reaction Grid?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: the builder really knows the fair…we corresponded about a surviving building here in Richmond that was moved down here

Frankie Antonelli: @Lyr, I wish I could play it again and again

Kali Pizzaro: oh if you want to sit by a loch or a castle and chat

Graham Mills: Another excellent historical build best suited to small groups is Mount Grace Priory on New World Grid

Al Supercharge: Theres a Interactive Educational Walk with the Moons Solar System:

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Also, let’s not forget Info Island, with reference librarans available many hours each week:

Lyr Lobo: aww frankie *grins*

Kali Pizzaro: woop beat me to it

Daring Melody: Maria Koroleve has just given dozens of places to find content for OpenSIm and a good selection of Grids

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: There is a full-on simulation of GM’s Futurama at the Fair, as well as the Belgian Pavillion

Daring Melody:

Frankie Antonelli: @Lyr, pls sign me up next time you run the game *grins*

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Here’s a link to a site about the World’s Fair at Reaction Grid:

Kali Pizzaro: to moon walk i think

Lyr Lobo:,70,25 for the Ayn Rand Space Station – is it in the rocket, 2 seater….

Liana Hubbenfluff: I can’t remember where this Cathedral is sited but it’s great

Graham Mills: Another science one is the Pic du Midi observatory on New World Grid

Liana Hubbenfluff: I think all the sims are educational

Tree Kyomoon: 32

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Got a link to the New World Grid web site?

packinrat Furlough: I love NWG. My region is down until the upgrade but I can’t wait.

D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): @UCF we have a faculty member who made the ’62 World’s Fair in Ogre (sp?)

packinrat Furlough: FreeOpenGrid provides Free New Work Grid hosting but they do ask educators to donate something to new world grid if they use it.

Liana Hubbenfluff: The Tech Museum of Innovation, The Tech (196, 158, 38)

Liana Hubbenfluff: One Climate Island, OneClimate (43, 226, 22)

Sicily Zapatero: NWG?

Graham Mills: There’s a few edu sims listed here

Sicily Standee Griz_001

Sicily Zapatero: Anyone have trouble with the ports there?

packinrat Furlough:

Graham Mills:

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: NWG = New World Grid

Sheila Yoshikawa: Did anyone mention Muinjij and Cupids, two historical sims?

packinrat Furlough: New World Grid will be great after the Upgrade to 9.1.1

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Go ahead, Sheila

Liana Hubbenfluff: SETI Science RADIO/Multimedia, TovaDok 11 (89, 191, 22(

Tree Kyomoon: great list ! I cant wait to check all these out!

Lyr Lobo: /me grins

Graham Mills: Sydeham Crystal Palace in SL

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yep…if I can get all the SLURLs working XD

AJ (ajome.algoma): me too

Graham Mills: *Sydenham

Sheila Yoshikawa: Muinjij tells the story of a native Canadian, taking pelts to teh sea with his grandfather

Lyr Lobo: watch the last digit

Lyr Lobo: some of the slurs ended in 2…they need 25

Sicily Zapatero: I hope they weill be posted in one spot?

Lyr Lobo: so just add one

Liana Hubbenfluff: West of Ireland Library and Cultural Center (sorry no url)


Sheila Yoshikawa: and Cupids is a recreation of another period in Candaian history

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Sicily, I’ll run this transcript at next week

Sicily Zapatero: ใ‹ก

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Cupids is awesome. I made a youtube video about it a week or so ago.

Sheila Yoshikawa: both beautifully done, with activities etc, you can just search for those 2 sim names in the world map

packinrat Furlough: Diva will be indexing all sims some day. I hope their is a way to search by educational topics.

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): West of Ireland–aren’t they now Seanchai Library?

Kali Pizzaro: great for information Literacy

Kali Pizzaro: smiles at Sheila

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Here’s a completely banal question: when I brought students in, they wanted to visit Freebie stores. Do any good ones still exist that are not griefer-magnets?

Sheila Yoshikawa: TY Kali

Marc Rexen: My turn….:)

Graham Mills: That was the idea behind the TiddlySpace — site — to enable people to construct hypergrid trails–

Marc Rexen: Doing this off the cuff, while here…

However, even Rodvick Linden (Ron Humbolt) the CEO didn’t understand why 16,000 people per day are “new logons” to SL. My interest has always been why do so few stick and to that end, I inhabit the Welcome Areas.

Sheila Yoshikawa: I take mine to the somethingorother bazaar, hold on

packinrat Furlough:

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid):

Lyr Lobo: do you use boracay’s hitchhiker’s guide to SL?

Marc Rexen: On a periodic survey of “Help Areas,” I ran into the German Newbie Center, or GNC for short. While I don’t speak German, it is clear this is a key place for Germans to get help when they are new. Welcome Areas are tricky as there has to something of interest keeping the old avatars around with a willingness to help new one. Creating and maintaining this “culture” is hard, but it usually depends on a few key individuals.

Lyr Lobo: we still do for freebie sites, exploring etc

Lyr Lobo: tutorials

Marc Rexen: I have noticed, unscientifically, that folks that get “early help in the form they want and appreciate,” do seem to stick around more. This varies with the individual of course. I’ve found success with being quite nice to folks, and in a few cases, calling the person an asshole, then sending them to a place where the other assholes are — and many have gone. I’ve also had more than a few of the “assholes” come back and thank me (even years later) as they realized where I sent them wasn’t filled with assholes, it just “seemed” that way initially :).

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Yadni’s junkyard’s still around, at least it was last spring.

Marc Rexen: Obviously, the Germans have figured it out because this place always seems busy. As I said, while I don’t speak German, it is obvious that those lucky German Newbies who find, or are directed, to the GNC, do well.

Usually, I send English speakers to Gentle Herons Virtual Ability. She’s updated it for V2 and has an “advanced area,” that helps make it seem “better.” ๐Ÿ™‚

Sorta nice even the owners of the game don’t have a clue as to why it is still working. ๐Ÿ™‚

Anshe Chung, the millionaire landowner within SL (80 employees) was the focus of a slashdot post today…like a whole new crop of geeks will be “trying VW’s out.” ๐Ÿ™‚

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Thanks, Dan. I figured he’s hang in there. EnkyThings is still around, but it can be dicey with creeps

Sheila Yoshikawa: The Bazaar: free stuff! *No Sell, Stillman (145, 91, 23)

Marc Rexen: So, the answer to your question is “maybe,” the Linden Welcome areas still have griefer issues, but many of the more private ones don’t.

Lyr Lobo: anyone else need the tour hud, let me know

Lyr Lobo: modifiable so you can adapt your own

Marc Rexen: The “regulars” at the Linden WA’s don’t like the griefers anymore than newbies and do try to “blunt” the effect.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: We have 15 minutes more

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: anyone have a site they did not get to share yet?

Sheila Yoshikawa: also Yak & Yeti was still there last time I checked, and I put together links to priced stores that have good quality freebies for new avatars

Frankie Antonelli: @Lyr, I love to gave the tour hud, please

Graham Mills: was my attempt at a cross-searching tool for some of the freebie websites for opensim

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Do you mean the SL orientation areas? I tried to go back recently to scope it out for our students, and wasn’t permitted to go there.

Marc Rexen: Very few freebies areas within G sims…I only found one weak one when searching.

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): So I think SL is trying to keep those areas safe for newbies – unsuccessfully.

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Virtual ability and Caledon Oxbridge have good orientations.

Marc Rexen: Teens do not have it good.

AJ (ajome.algoma): agreed

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): NCI is good for newbies.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Grizzla, I think the other person meant the welcome areas such as Ahern or Morris—run, don’t walk, away ๐Ÿ™‚

Graham Mills: NWG has a few freebie areas — Free Market and Crackou Island, for example

Marc Rexen: Issue is, the Lindens do gate people there.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Giant storm here…might crash!

Graham Mills: I believe that some of them are intended for residents-only though

Marc Rexen: If there is a model that works, I’m all ears, and so will the Lindens.

Wrenaria Antiesse: Ohio Learning Network has a great freebie resource area – – has clothes, furniture, gadgets, scripts, etc

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks, Wren

Wrenaria Antiesse: its the best I’ve seen

D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): Anyone know a good site for Women’s Studies?

packinrat Furlough: If any educator needs a free OpenSim region, just message me and I will provide.

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Also, freebies at U of Cincinnati bookstore:

Graham Mills: Isn’t that Ellie Brewster”s field?

Marc Rexen: Peer teaching is most important…intellectual peer, not necessarily age.

Marc Rexen: Age is a “rough” starting point.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: we noted where we might take an educator if we could only go to ONE sim. What would you recommend as a “first stop” on a longer stay in SL?

Al Supercharge: I have an OVERPOPULATION EXPERIENCE exhibit — starts when someone arrives — takes 0 mins to cycle thru — Take the TP from Vulcan Island parcel in my Profile

Marc Rexen: NMC.

Al Supercharge: 10 mins

Graham Mills: ISTE

Sheila Yoshikawa: @ Dlightful, yes, Ellie Brewster is the one to contact for Women’s studies, her island has that as its focus

D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): Thanks Sheila and Graham

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Did anyone mention Virtual Harlem? Is Bryan still running the sims there? I know he downsized b/c of the tier increase

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Haven’t been there in a while.

Wrenaria Antiesse: mostly I show people my own sim as I am OSU hermit and dont get out much, lol

packinrat Furlough: No need for anyone to downsize, If it is educational, we will host it for free.

Wrenaria Antiesse: plus I am usually trying to entice OSU people to commit to new projects

Wrenaria Antiesse: :p

Graham Mills: Oh, DrDoug Pennell’s builds: virtual testis and ovary


Frankie Antonelli: Does anyone know of good practices & sims to learn foreign languages?

Wrenaria Antiesse: I’m excited to check out some of the builds y’all have mentioned today though

D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): Wind kicking up here in Central Florida. Irene brushing by

AJ (ajome.algoma): I want to visit everything lol

Graham Mills: EduNation is the focus for the Slanguages Conference each year

Frankie Antonelli: We are looking into using SL to teach Portuguese and Spanish

Frankie Antonelli: @Graham, ty

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Virtual Harlem is not coming up on the map I fear

Graham Mills:

Marc Rexen: If just one place, Sterling Vineyard…Natural Fantasies…easy navigation, mix of sales and gorgeous landscape…nothing disruptive, always nice…the first experience should not be “boring book learning” translated to VW’s. ๐Ÿ™‚

Silhshoot Seelowe: Vietnam War Memorial

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I’ll see if I can verify any SLURLs before we go live with the transcript

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: for the last 5 minutes…anyone have questions that did not get answered? Or other sites?

Sicily Zapatero: I’m floored by all that everyone had to contribute! Grazie!

Marc Rexen: Format worked, iggy, off the cuff, casual discussion of sites, etc., etc. ๐Ÿ™‚

AJ (ajome.algoma): this was excellent! I am glad I came

Sheila Yoshikawa: Thinking about it, I suppose in a way the strength of SL is that it can cater for people who have different ideas of what is interesting, so the ideal “one place” for each person would be different – rather than dragging all the new students etc. off to the same place …

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): The Macbeth site is fun, if it hasn’t been mentioned.

Kali Pizzaro: The museum by Peter Vos is amazing

Sheila Yoshikawa: logistically difficult though

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks, Marc. I’m flying by the seat of my pants in a severe thunderstorm ๐Ÿ™‚

Sheila Yoshikawa: oh, virtual Haj, was that mentioned?

Marc Rexen: We have gorgeous weather, clear skies, light wind…good night for BBQ’ing. ๐Ÿ™‚

Kali Pizzaro: let me find the landmark he dedicated it to his father who died of Cancer

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Please do and paste it in, Kali

Siri Vezina: I’ve got to go – thanks, all!

AJ (ajome.algoma): anybody want 114 degree temps?

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Thanks for coming, Siri!

Wrenaria Antiesse: I know the Sistine chapel was mentioned earlier but I dont recall seeing a slurl

Wrenaria Antiesse: Sistine Chapel



Graham Mills: Bye Siri ๐Ÿ™‚

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I’ll pass, AJ. A hurricane is better I guess

Sheila Yoshikawa: bye

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): virtual hajj is a great place to visit i’ve been there a couple of times

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Oh what is the slurl? I’d like to go there.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks for that SLURL, Wren. I need to get back. Always sent my students to Vassar

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): (Should I wear a hijab?)

AJ (ajome.algoma): well I’m willing to share

AJ (ajome.algoma): yes

Wrenaria Antiesse: abyone know is the virtual San Francesco di Assisi is stilla round?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I miss the Chebi Mosque…we have lost some really good sites too

Wrenaria Antiesse: that was another stunner

Graham Mills: @Wren — no

Wrenaria Antiesse: sad

AJ (ajome.algoma): yes I know

Kali Pizzaro: Peter Vos Museum

Sicily Zapatero: SAn Francesco is gone?

Kali Pizzaro: and a story by Wagner Au

Al Supercharge: IM me: anyone wants Notecard on what happens in Walk with the Moons – Solar System ( incl LM)

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia):

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thank you everyone…AND REMEMBER

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: NEW TIME NEXT WEEK…1130 SLT

AJ (ajome.algoma): ty all

Sheila Yoshikawa: Virtual Hajj, OnIslam (8, 55, 21)

Graham Mills: Anything In SciLands for science basically — I like the Midrivers Project

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): Nods and writes that in her calendar Iggy.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks, Sheila…I’ll try to pull up all the SLURLS this weekend

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: AJ will return next week to moderate

Kali Pizzaro: ok 11:30am Slt next week

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: topic TBA

Kali Pizzaro: a roundtable me thinks

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yep

Kali Pizzaro: at 11:30am slt

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: you got it ๐Ÿ™‚

Kali Pizzaro: right think we have done our bit Iggy

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: did you say 11:30 SLT, Kali?

Kali Pizzaro: i did

Kali Pizzaro: that is slt

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): what time is the meeting next week?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: /me passes you a pint

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): just kidding

Kali Pizzaro: 7:30 pm UK

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): And a.m., right?

Marc Rexen: 1:30 Central time.

Kali Pizzaro: loveley

Liana Hubbenfluff: be safe all!

Sheila Yoshikawa: I think it was 11.30?

AJ (ajome.algoma): you too

Sheila Yoshikawa: at least it’s after the Archers

Liana Hubbenfluff: heads down during the storm!

Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): great meeting

Kali Pizzaro: yep 11:30

Frankie Antonelli: you too

Marc Rexen: …slumming on the portable. ๐Ÿ™‚

Tray.Rivera, Texas Braveheart_001

Texas Braveheart: Thank you everyone. Very informative.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yes, 11:30 AM SLT it was. Now AJ will know we reminded you ๐Ÿ˜€

Kali Pizzaro: ok grand i will not be sleeping

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: goodnight all

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Good wishes to all in the hurricane path

D’lightful (delightful.doowangle): thanks and great seeing everyone!

Graham Mills: Glad to see you have yr priorities right, Sheila

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: off into the storm ๐Ÿ™‚

Silhshoot Seelowe: thank you folks ใ‹ก

Kali Pizzaro: have way through

Wrenaria Antiesse: thanks all

Sheila Yoshikawa: lol

Kali Pizzaro: take care all

Kali Pizzaro: wooopppp

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): ty all it was great

Kali Pizzaro: stay safe Iggy and all

Daring Melody: Bye all

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): bye, all, see you next week.

AJ (ajome.algoma): bye

Sheila Yoshikawa: bye

Graham Mills: yes, take care all

Lyr Lobo: bye *smiles*

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: hurricane party at my house! Bye all

Update: 9/26/11
From Grizzla Pixelmaid:

JimEd mentioned at yesterday’s meeting that he would send me a list of recommended sites for the transcript. These are from the notecard he just sent me inworld:

GREAT WALL OF CHINA – World Heritage Site, China Sichuan (130, 16, 24)

~~Paris 1900 ~~ Moulin rouge ~ champs elysees, Paris 1900 (38, 138, 25)

FRANCE PITTORESQUE French/Accueil/Plage/Francais/

Gratuit/Beach, Seychelles (141, 134, 21)

Germany:ย  Goethe-Institut, Goethe Institut (67, 148, 25)


::ย  Persian Palaceย  :: G&A furniture & Art :: , Adventure Land (52, 90, 25)

Virtual Native Lands, Native Lands East (211, 32, 22)

Saint Petersburg- Imperial Russia 1805 , Antiquity Pavelhof (209, 194, 23)

Russianย  Red Square – Moscow Island, Moscow Island (87, 163, 21)

REYNO & CORTE DE ESPANA/ COURT OF SPAIN, Antiquity New Europe (40, 66, 28)

Learn Spanish !!!!, Instituto Espanol (57, 158, 25)

Scottish Highlands – Loch Ness a, Inverness City (192, 63, 1001)

::West of Ireland::ย  Irish Pub, , West of Ireland (190, 71, 33)

Italia Vera: Milano Vera, Provin, Italia 4 Milano (27, 6, 33)

Sistine Chapel Re-Creation, Vassar (178, 85, 25)

Africa, Africa (199, 143, 26)

Africa Illuminated–The Yoruba L, Africa Illuminated (169, 101, 21)

World Music: Madhu’s Cafe Indien – World Musi, New Toulouse Algiers (153, 160, 29)

TMA- A Jewish Neighborhood in Second life, Nessus (76, 140, 103)

SL Israel, Israel (30, 141, 24)

Wonderful Denmark (166, 128, 22)

SL’s List of Destination Guides to Real Places:

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