July 19, 2012: Future VWER Meeting Topics

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Transcript of the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable

July 19, 2012

Topic: Future VWER Meeting Topics

Photos by Iggy. Join our VWER groups at Flickr and Koinup to add your own pictures!

VWER July 19, 2012

AJ Brooks: Hi everyone, and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable. Our topic today is “Future VWER Meeting Topics”

AJ Brooks: The VWER meets each Thursday at 11:30am SLT for an hour and is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education.

AJ Brooks: Our group has met every week for over four years and we get a wide variety of educators, from seasoned veterans to the newly rezzed.

AJ Brooks: This is a public meeting, so we will be keeping and publishing a transcript of what is said in local chat. If you’ve not seen our transcripts, you should check them out – they are an excellent information asset

Birdie Newcomb: a topic about topics. Hmm

AJ Brooks: and a great historical reference. Via our web site, they are also searchable. The transcripts can be found at http://www.vwer.org – select the LIBRARY tab at the top.

Claudia13 Rossini: very topical

AJ Brooks: The Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable continues to develop a community of educators from around the world with a variety of thoughts, needs, and ideas.

AJ Brooks: Please join the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable Facebook and http://bit.ly/vwerfb You can also find and post pictures to our Flickr group and KoinUp and follow us on Twitter @VWER.

AJ Brooks: When you blog or tweet, please remember to include the tag #vwer (its important not to forget to include the #)

AJ Brooks: So, lets get started – the way we usually do. Please introduce yourself in local chat – you name, what you do, and where you do it. No need to wait, go ahead and type away.

AJ Brooks: I am AJ Kelton, I’m the Director of Emerging Instructional Technology for the College of Humanities & Social Sciences at Montclair State University. I am also the Founder and Chief Moderator for the VWER.

Birdie Newcomb: Birdie Newborn, Bandanna Books

Claudia13 Rossini: Claudia….insane builder

Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): /me is Joe Essid, University of Richmond English & Writing Center, teaching with virtual worlds since 2007. I run simulations based on Poe’s House of Usher in SL and Jokaydia Grid.

AJ Brooks: emphasis on the insane

Wrenaria Antiesse: kimmy hescock, social and immersive media manager, Oregon state university

Kali Pizzaro: Evelyn McElhinney, Lecturer Nursing, RN, Doctoral student Glasgow Caledonian University

Claudia13 Rossini: nods nods nods to AJ

Esparanza Freese: /me is Hope Botterbusch, Florida

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Congratulations on the book, Dan!!

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): ridvan ata, phd researcher, university of sheffield,uk

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Dan Holt, Lansing Community College, Lansing MI, English prof.

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Thanks, Iggy!

AJ Brooks: Is that everyone?

AJ Brooks: Before we get into our topic for today I have some house keeping stuff to take care of.

AJ Brooks: In order to maintain our ability to hold weekly meetings, and grow in ways the VWER community has suggested and requested, we need more moderators. This is not optional.

AJ Brooks: On Tuesday Aug 14th, the VWER Moderators will hold a special meeting called “VWER Moderator’s Meeting.”

[Grizzla's note: Clever name for a meeting.]

AJ Brooks: And it is not difficult. Being a moderator can be fun and its pretty easy. This session will discuss, from the perspective of our current moderators, what it means, and what it takes, to be a VWER Moderator.

AJ Brooks: You do not need to commit to being a moderator to come to the meeting. You just need a serious interest. If you come and like what you hear, there is a mentorship model in place.

AJ Brooks: If it’s not for you, at the very least you understand a bit better how our meetings work.

AJ Brooks: None of us thought we’d be good at this when we first started doing it. But we all are committed to the educational community and making sure the VWER remains a vital and important asset for all.

AJ Brooks: I hope you’ll think about joining us on the 14th.

Claudia13 Rossini: <—fortunately i’m too insane to moderate (that and AJ probably forbids anything so disastrous happening

AJ Brooks: and yes, claudia is forbidden from moderating

AJ Brooks: there is NOTHING moderate about her

Claudia13 Rossini: lol

AJ Brooks: :-)

AJ Brooks: so – lets get at today’s topic

Claudia13 Rossini: it’s my total lack of strong opinions

AJ Brooks: the fine people who moderate your meetings want to know what YOU want to talk about

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): LOL Claudia would be a great moderator. We’d need to get her a whip and a chair and a lion-tamer hat

Claudia13 Rossini: whispers: have those in inventory

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): /me grins

AJ Brooks: we’ve covered a number of topics but realized that it’s been a long time since we asked the community what kinds of topics it wanted to hear about

AJ Brooks: so – who wants to get us started

AJ Brooks: what topics would be of interest

AJ Brooks: taps fingers on roundtable

AJ Brooks: taps foot

Claudia13 Rossini: AJ…i have something that interests me…but it might be more of a research thing

AJ Brooks: :-)

AJ Brooks: spill it

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): field trips, the field trips to other VWs was really informative and helpful, the ones we did a year or two ago.

Birdie Newcomb: I have to ask, as a non-teacher, what’s the educational difference when teaching in SL (besides the learning curve)? Do you teach the same stuff, or entirely different?

AJ Brooks: ok – lets start with field trips

AJ Brooks: where should we go

AJ Brooks whispers “birdie, will get back to yours in a moment”

AJ Brooks: and should we do them as special meetings are should we do our weekly meetings as the field trip

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Cloud Party, Jokaydia Grid, Reactiongrid, OSgrid?

AJ Brooks: for the latter, it might alienate those who don’t have accounts on those grids

Claudia13 Rossini: well……i’ve wondered, and made decisions based solely on things i see…..but…..since this is an immersive environment….and the better immersed the better the learning (read that in some books)

Birdie Newcomb: or hardware that won’t work with Cloud Party

AJ Brooks: i love the field trips we did, they were fun

Claudia13 Rossini: how much does the immersive aspect of a build effect how good the experience is

AJ Brooks: ooo – good claudia – hold that for a few

Kali Pizzaro: great topic Claudia

AJ Brooks: will get to that after done with field trips and birdie’s

AJ Brooks: so – what does the crowd think – field trips during regular weekly meetings or as special meetings?

AJ Brooks: I’m fine with either – although I won’t be at any meeting from Sept to Dec due to classes

Kali Pizzaro: as a meeting

AJ Brooks: (meaning, any thursday meetings)

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): They worked well as special meetings when we did them before. Though–in-SL field trips would work for a regular meeting?

Robert (robit.gundersen): open to either way

Kali Pizzaro: or as a special if you want to lead

Birdie Newcomb: as a meeting, yeah

AJ Brooks: ooo – in-SL field trips – interesting, we’ve never done those

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): I’m interested in real world events simulated in second life. For example, I am currently building an aircraft crash scene in SL for an aircraft accident investigation class. Wondering what other educational simulations have been built inworld?

AJ Brooks: wow – so two great ideas in one. Field trips on special days and in SL trips on regular meetings

Kali Pizzaro: Lots Captain

AJ Brooks: so – if we were to do in SL field trips – where would we go?

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Robert (robit.gundersen): I’ve worked on street scenes .. photorealistic

AJ Brooks: after field trips, we’ll get to birdie, then claudia, then UCMO

Birdie Newcomb: hypergridding!!

Robert (robit.gundersen): scenes!

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I won’t speak for Grizzla, but she talks about Cupid’s Cove (and it’s not a romance sim)

[Grizzla's note: Cupid's Cove, aka Cuper's Cove, WAS a historical build about the first English-speaking settlement in Canada - but it is now gone.]

AJ Brooks: ok – any other suggestions?

AJ Brooks: just to make a list

Claudia13 Rossini: i know of a building that catches fire and is being used to test exit responses

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): yes! hypergridding

AJ Brooks: claudia – can you get us that sim name?

Kali Pizzaro: PTSD Island

AJ Brooks: that would be cool

Wrenaria Antiesse: mmhmm

AJ Brooks: PTSD Island, cool

AJ Brooks: any other ideas?

Kali Pizzaro: let me see if i can get the slurl although we might need to be careful

Wrenaria Antiesse: could have members do guided tour of their projects in SL

Birdie Newcomb: wouldn’t want to live there…

Claudia13 Rossini: oh sure…it’s part of a project for Penn Univ…..

Zotarah Shepherd: A topic I would like to see: Criteria for good pedagogy and and what else needs to happen when teaching in a virtual world.

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): WW I Poetry in the Trenches by CSteph

Kali Pizzaro: disclaimer

AJ Brooks: hold off on new topics ideas for just a few, we’re on a slight backlog

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): that was a destination suggestion

Kali Pizzaro: I will see if I can find the slurl for an island where you can go round with a knapsack and make nutritional decisions about food

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Iggy’s Poe sim would be cool to visit as a group.

Claudia13 Rossini: UPenn Activity Area – Easy L$ pr, UPenn Research (178, 126, 32)

AJ Brooks: Lets slip off field trips for now, if you can think of any other locations during the meeting just post them to the chat and we’ll ferret them out

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Thanks, Dan. Roderick could give the tour! In SL or OpenSIm

AJ Brooks: Birdie, can you restate your idea?

Zotarah Shepherd: I am not sure what other sims I have seen are still up. So much has changed

Birdie Newcomb: Do you teach different things because you’re in SL?

Birdie Newcomb: And, I’ve noticed that an assistant is very handy

AJ Brooks: so – is the content different in Sl compared to F2F?

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): becoming a SL educator

Birdie Newcomb: Also a builder

Birdie Newcomb: Do you learn different things? Can you teach the same things?

AJ Brooks: ok – great.

Birdie Newcomb: Iggy’s House of Usher — do they learn the same things?

AJ Brooks: If we ran one like that, would you be willing to get us started (not moderate, just state your question)?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): In theory, Birdie, they learn more about the nature of narrative and determinacy

Birdie Newcomb: Or, more hifalutin — are we changing education?

AJ Brooks: oooooooo

Margaret Michalski: On Birdies Idea I would like to say traditional online vs 3D

AJ Brooks: ok, claudia – what was your idea?

AJ Brooks: Claudia – you were talking about immersion?

Zotarah Shepherd: Criteria for good pedagogy and and what else needs to happen when teaching in a virtual world.

AJ Brooks: Did we lose claudia for now?

Zotarah Shepherd: To make the most of the VW

Claudia13 Rossini: well….not to be insulting, though i know i am….i think it’s time we considered seriously the builds…move beyond ‘make do’…into builds that provide good immersion….i think they might have a serious effect on how we use VW’s and how well learning takes place here

Zotarah Shepherd: I think my question is closely related to Claudia’s

AJ Brooks: so – not just the fact that the build exists but its realistic nature

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): A good builds field trip would be intriguing.

Claudia13 Rossini: or fantasy, if fantasy is the point

Kali Pizzaro: or if it is interactive?

Kali Pizzaro: Claudia

AJ Brooks: ok – excellent.

Robert (robit.gundersen): I agree Claudia .. we are far from operational and we need to make a step change in quality

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): Mesh will help to that end

Birdie Newcomb: A corollary to mine: What would help new teachers when teaching in SL?

AJ Brooks: What we’ll end up doing is to take the list that Wren and Iggy cull and then come up with some titles and run them by the suggesters before running the meetings.

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): But it’s all about textures too

AJ Brooks: we’d also want to make sure the suggesters were available for the meeting so they could participate

Claudia13 Rossini: no, i don’t think mesh matters other then just another build tool

Zotarah Shepherd: So many think you build a classroom here and that is all a VW can do. We know it has much more to offer.

Kali Pizzaro: however if the area needs to look authentic then that can be important – a ward environment

AJ Brooks: but I think we’re generating some great ideas. that said, we need 52 each year! LOL

Kali Pizzaro: etc

Kali Pizzaro: to the learning experience

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): If you are talking about suspending your disbelief due to the quality of the build, then mesh with baked textures is the best we have at the moment

Robert (robit.gundersen): I visited a major sl /VE developer yesterday and was left thinking we haven’t come very far .. although I think we ARE moving but slowly

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Hmm..we need a new VWER officer to be our travel agent each week :P

Kali Pizzaro: what about how the perception of social presence contributes to learning

AJ Brooks: well – I was one for 14 years

AJ Brooks: before my life in higher ed

AJ Brooks: :-)

AJ Brooks: Ok – UCMO – can you repeat your original topic idea you posted before?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): finish that PhD mister Kelton! We’ll find some sucke…I mean volunteer

AJ Brooks: lol

Claudia13 Rossini: lol

Wrenaria Antiesse: lol Iggy

Zotarah Shepherd: hehe

AJ Brooks: getting there

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): I’m interested in RL simulations within SL

AJ Brooks: ok – can you say more

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): for example, I am building an aircraft crash scene

Kali Pizzaro: yep I do PBL for healthcare

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): for an online class

Kali Pizzaro: clinical simulation

AJ Brooks: cool!

Zotarah Shepherd: In SL you can do so much more than in RL

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): it recreates a documented crash scene

Kali Pizzaro: excellent

AJ Brooks: oooo – thats awesome

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): so that the students can tour the scene online and write a report

AJ Brooks: can we come see it when its done?

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): Certainly

AJ Brooks: yay

AJ Brooks: field trip!

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): I hope to have it ready for this fall

AJ Brooks: and so what is your question, or should I say, topic idea?

Robert (robit.gundersen): how forensic can you .. do you want to be .. before it becomes useful?

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): Other ideas for teaching simulations?

AJ Brooks: well – thats a topic right there, teaching simulations

Zotarah Shepherd: You could even show the crash “as it happens” in a SL reenactment without students getting hurt and investigate while there is still smoke and danger happening.

AJ Brooks: what Iggy does with Poe is not a simulation the same as what you do, or what Kali does

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Kali Pizzaro: Iggy is more role play – do you agree Iggy

Zotarah Shepherd: At Poe you can roleplay the stories and poems

AJ Brooks: so – I think we have maybe a 1/2 dozen or dozen ideas, that’s good for 2-3 months. :-) more more more – what else ya got?

AJ Brooks: perhaps we can do a once a month field trip in SL – we’ve never tried that before.

yes, it’s rp to see if students can change the outcome of Poe’s tale, when faced with two very determined and morose actors as Roderick and Madeline

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): it might be interesting to discuss different perspectives with social norms such as western, asian etc for vws as well

AJ Brooks: members can suggest a build, moderators will go visit and try to group one or two by topic

AJ Brooks: Rivdan – wow – great idea!

Claudia13 Rossini: interesting Ridvan

AJ Brooks: I REALLY like that one

Kali Pizzaro: yep

AJ Brooks: we may need to hold that until the spring so I can be at it

AJ Brooks: LOL

AJ Brooks: are there any topics we might have covered in the past but should do again?

Birdie Newcomb: one field trip might be to a language learning site — that seems to be a good use of SL

Claudia13 Rossini: i’ve notice and entire ‘style’ amongst a group of japanese builders….right down to clothing and av appearances

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): i am really wondering other perspectives for vws as well not just western

AJ Brooks: love it, grand idea

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @AJ, I’d like to bring back our panel of artists and our defense contractors–for SEPARATE panels–to give us a picture of their fields and VWs

Kali Pizzaro: How about – Does the identity of the chosen avatar influence physical world behaviour

Zotarah Shepherd: You can connect with people from different countries and cultures in a VW that would be difficult in RL. I am sure there are many examples of that.

AJ Brooks: ok – those can be special monthly meetings

AJ Brooks: great idea

AJ Brooks: follow ups

Claudia13 Rossini: that’s good Zo

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): right, though two of our artistes won’t use voice

Birdie Newcomb: And it might be useful to have a session with builders and designers — to see what’s possible, or amazing.

Claudia13 Rossini: who they?

AJ Brooks: any other people/individuals you’d like to see us interview

AJ Brooks: big names?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @Claudia, Miso Susanowa, Wizard Gynoid, Soror Nishi

AJ Brooks: movers and shakers

Kali Pizzaro: I might have some phase one findings to report late in the year or early next year

Zotarah Shepherd: Yes an artist can build amazing art in a VW that would just not be possible in RL.

Kali Pizzaro: from my PhD

AJ Brooks: LOl – Claudia – you’ve GOT to be kidding – give her an open mic – NEVAH!

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): That would be cool, Kali.

Zotarah Shepherd: ooo great Kali

Claudia13 Rossini: but but but

AJ Brooks: lol

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Great topic idea, Kali.

Kali Pizzaro: which one lol

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): VW to physical influences

AJ Brooks: nobody can think of any rock stars they’d like to see interviewed?

Kali Pizzaro: ah cool

Claudia13 Rossini: (but i’m told i have a lovely voice….and i can avoid spelling errors)

Birdie Newcomb: Lady Gaga — she might come

AJ Brooks pats claudia on the head

Claudia13 Rossini: physical influences?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): David Bowie and Brian Eno have avatars

Kali Pizzaro: world claudia

Zotarah Shepherd: Advantages of teaching students with disabilities updates in a virtual world is always a good topic.

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): As does Drew Carey.

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): but they won’t answer my IMs :I

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): how about resistance to vws , why we love it why we hate it :)

Claudia13 Rossini: oh good Riv

AJ Brooks: good – what else

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): Riv – good one – as we have found SL to be very divisive with students, they either love it or hate it

AJ Brooks: lets do a brainstorming – no silly ideas, no turns any more – just write ideas into local chat

Birdie Newcomb: Hmm, let me search the bottom of my wastebasket…

Kali Pizzaro: what about Jim Blascovich or Jeremy Bailenson

AJ Brooks: Oooo – Bailenson – good

AJ Brooks: can talk about identity and suspension of disbelief

Kali Pizzaro: yep and avatars

Kali Pizzaro: ;-)

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): another panel with some students?

Claudia13 Rossini: be nice to find some human behaviorists studying VW’s

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): discrimination in SL re: furries

Kali Pizzaro: yeah Iggy

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): not done that for a while

Birdie Newcomb: A costume party!

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia) looks around “this is a costume party, Birdie!”

AJ Brooks: let’s do the costume party close to thanksgiving – come as your alt or something like that

AJ Brooks: @Iggy – ROFL

Zotarah Shepherd: I’d like to see more authors of books about VWs present to us

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Hoo whee Thanksgiving

Kali Pizzaro: woo – Claudia shopping!

Kali Pizzaro: ;-)

Claudia13 Rossini: i’m soo not coming as my alt….she’s more outspoken then i am

AJ Brooks: NOT POSSIBLE!

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Excellent idea, Zo.

Claudia13 Rossini: lol, AJ, don’t bet the sim build on it

AJ Brooks: you already own the sim build dear

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): 15 on our sim for the transcript

AJ Brooks: so – what authors

Claudia13 Rossini: man, could we get Robert Shapiro?

Kali Pizzaro: Sun joo Ahn or Jesse Fox

Birdie Newcomb: Neil Gaiman

Kali Pizzaro: worked with Balienson on paper about avatars

AJ Brooks: Nick Yee

Kali Pizzaro: yep

Kali Pizzaro: was my next shout

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Karl Kapp?

Zotarah Shepherd: I am a serious Neil Gaiman fan

AJ Brooks: if we could get Yee and Bailenson at the same time – talk about daedelus – THAT would be awesome

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): Neil Gaiman was on an episode of the Simpsons (but hasn’t everyone been on the Simpsons by now)

AJ Brooks: ok – change of pace – any topics we should NOT do

AJ Brooks: anything you guys are sick of

Kali Pizzaro: negative aspects of SL

Kali Pizzaro: to not do

Kali Pizzaro: lets try to be positive although not completely uncritical

AJ Brooks: I’m a socialist, erudite, academic who wants everything for free

Claudia13 Rossini: i’m with Kali on that….no more SL bashing, or other VW’s bashing….i’m sick of hearing it

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): @AJ and a linux user too?

Frankie Antonelli: Jesse Schell might be great too. Although he is a games guy, his concept of virtual companions rather than avatars sounds intriguing

Claudia13 Rossini: we might want a positive look at viewers, they change so fast….who’s tried what, what seems to work for what computer

AJ Brooks: thats an idea, a meeting on the different viewers

Birdie Newcomb: adult sites. sigh.

Zotarah Shepherd: I have been through viewer hell – not fun

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): lol, AJ. I have to shut down basic shaders even to run at a decent frame rate!

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Well, my next meeting focuses on what we’d build from scratch if we made a VW. That can avoid SL-bashing and go to what we’d carry forward

AJ Brooks: and see if we can get – ooo – maybe a panel discussion – one person from each of the major viewers

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @AJ, that’s a GREAT topic

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): who around the table knows folks from those firms?

AJ Brooks: it came to me in the middle of typing – hence the – ooo – LOL

Zotarah Shepherd: I am still using old 1.23

Claudia13 Rossini: you know AJ…i’m not sure that’s a good idea…it just becomes an hour of ‘our viewer is best’ advertising

AJ Brooks: you guys have to know how much the moderators all love each other

AJ Brooks: Claudia – we could stop it from becoming that

AJ Brooks: that’s where the interviewer comes in to control the conversation

Kali Pizzaro: could we pitch – what is good for newbies, builders, low graphics etc etc

Claudia13 Rossini: it’s just i think.personal experience is best, what works with what machine

Kali Pizzaro: ;-)

AJ Brooks nods

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AJ Brooks: no – actually, the more I think of it….

AJ Brooks: I think its personal, but preference and not machine

Captain Hammer (ucmo.hotshot): I agree Claudia, I cannot user the SL viewer at home on Ubuntu, have to use Phoenix

AJ Brooks: I use Imprudence because I like it – I’m sure other viewers would work on my machine

AJ Brooks: See, now UCMO – I didn’t know that

AJ Brooks: thats helpful for others – especially as open source becomes more relevant

Birdie Newcomb: I use different viewers for different VWs, so I don’t get confused.

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): I use v3 because that’s what new users/students will use, though I’m familiar with firestorm as a back up.

AJ Brooks: LOL

Margaret Michalski: I agree with Kali, when building I have to use imprudence because my ATI card can’t handle Coolviewer for longer than an hour max.

Zotarah Shepherd: I do too Birdie

AJ Brooks: I cannot use the SL viewer at all – any machine I own

Wrenaria Antiesse: /me uses the most up to date official viewer, and is fine with that

Claudia13 Rossini: see for me, rainbow is rock steady on my computer

Birdie Newcomb: Is there life after SL?

AJ Brooks: say more on that birdie

Claudia13 Rossini: no Birdie

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I’m sending Doctor Horrible after Capt. Hammer

AJ Brooks jabs Claudia

Claudia13 Rossini: if i stop showing up….i’m dead

Kali Pizzaro: i use v3 for the same reason as Dan

Wrenaria Antiesse: lol Iggy

Kali Pizzaro: Actually that is an interesting statement Claudia

Kali Pizzaro: how will we know if people leave are they just gone or are they dead

Kali Pizzaro: or injured

AJ Brooks: what happens when the person behind our avatar passes away

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I am a Joss Whedon fan, Wren. and seriously, if SL were to end, some real lives would too. That worries me a LOT.

Kali Pizzaro: I have thought of this

Birdie Newcomb: Feels like an alternate universe. I can be in one or the other.

Claudia13 Rossini: lol, someone in SL requires me to check in every morning

Wrenaria Antiesse: @Iggy – Whedon rocks

Zotarah Shepherd: /me high fives Iggy

Claudia13 Rossini: (so my body doesn’t get smelly)

Kali Pizzaro: I though Claudia was dead cause she did not turn up for a meeting lol

AJ Brooks high fives everyone – because I can

Kali Pizzaro: 5 mins left

Kali Pizzaro: OH I would like Jokay to come back and bring some little miners

Kali Pizzaro: to talk about their experiences

Kali Pizzaro: if age able

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): yes, a Minecraft panel would be GREAT

Claudia13 Rossini: (short people?)

Kali Pizzaro: oh you are awake

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Maybe I can get the dude from Glitch to speak

Graham Mills: a panel on mobile?

Claudia13 Rossini: ok, no idea what minecraft is obviously

AJ Brooks: having Jo with some of her older miners is a def. option

AJ Brooks: she’s said fine to that

Zotarah Shepherd: I’d like to know how various applications can enhance education in VWs (not SLoodle again though)

Robert (robit.gundersen): I’d like to develop applications we need

AJ Brooks: what kind of apps?

Zotarah Shepherd: So many awesome educators who could tell us more about what they do with students in VWs

Robert (robit.gundersen): scenario instancing

AJ Brooks: can you tell us what scenario instancing is in 30 seconds?

Birdie Newcomb: like the holodecks?

Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): such as avatar classroom ? http://www.avatarclassroom.com/

AJ Brooks: AH – got it

Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Robert, you should talk to Andrew Fallen–is working on crime scene scenarios for criminal justice students.

AJ Brooks: excellent

Robert (robit.gundersen): VE learning, student scenes on demand ..

AJ Brooks: well – this has been great

LoriVonne Lustre: I have a faculty member interested in crime scene scenarios as well

Robert (robit.gundersen): we are working with similar clients

AJ Brooks: I think we have plenty to sift through

AJ Brooks: time is up for this week. See everyone next week same bat time, same bat channel

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