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Transcript of the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable October 11, 2012
Topic: Open Forum
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Kali Pizzaro: Hi everyone, and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable. We meet each Thursday at 11:30am SLT for an hour. 7:30pm In UK, 2:30pm est
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Kali Pizzaro: Tonight’s theme: Open Forum
Kali Pizzaro: let’s start as we always do with introductions. I am Evelyn McElhinney RN, Lecturer in Advanced Practice and part time doctoral student at Glasgow Caledonian University in Scotland.
Claudia13 Rossini: Claudia…..builder and major instigator of insulting remarks
Delenn Daines: Judy Kelly, Biology Dept, Henry ford Community college, Dearborn Mi
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia) is Joe Essid, University of Richmond English & Writing Center, teaching with virtual worlds since 2007. I run simulations based on Poe’s House of Usher in SL and Jokaydia Grid.
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Chris Robinson, Georgia Gwinnett College
Esparanza Freese: Hope Botterbusch, I have a project in SL with the US Dept. of State
Galileo Zeplin: Ed Johnson…Board of Regents, University System of Georgia
Beth Ghostraven: Beth O’Connell, middle school librarian and SL explorer (recently earned the Caledon Quest topi!) from VA
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Dan Holt, Lansing Community College, Lansing, MI. This fall semester, I’m teaching 2 sections of fy composition and a section of creative writing in SL.
Sheila Yoshikawa: I teach at Sheffield University in the Information School
Kali Pizzaro: anyone else
Kali Pizzaro: going
Kali Pizzaro: going
Kali Pizzaro: gone to the man with the hat which will need to be surgically removed (mm there are a couple) you know who you are
Kali Pizzaro: ok so earlier i had a discussion with some folks about the value of students making there own avatar as opposed to us making them for them. my thoughts and there is some evidence that making your own makes you more immersed. thoughts?
Esparanza Freese: did everyone fall asleep?
Kali Pizzaro: oops their
Beth Ghostraven: oops, lost in my closet
Beth Ghostraven: making one for them gets them inworld faster, for short-term projects
Quirky McArdle: sorry I was briefly afk
Claudia13 Rossini: i think you’re quite right Kali, from the studies i’ve read
Sheila Yoshikawa: Yes, I think making their own gives more ownership and more immersion, however it isn’t something I’ve researched
Beth Ghostraven: Can they change one that’s made for them?
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): I do think that personalizing an av makes you more immersed – but I think you can do that without the students taking the time to create an account. At least, that’s how we’re approaching it, this time around.
Sheila Yoshikawa: presumably no reason why not, technically, claudia
Claudia13 Rossini: though, av’s i make for people are tailored to their r/l looks and i’ve found those non self made av’s are very immersive
Beth Ghostraven: It took me awhile just to figure out how to change my clothes inworld
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): But this group of students will only be in SL for a week or two, so the time for account creation and teaching them how to get to our sim, didn’t seem worth it.
Quirky McArdle: Does getting skin, shape, clothing and hair do much the same thing?
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Makes sense, Grizzla.
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): If they’re going to be in world for the whole semester, then makes sense for them to create their own avie.
Claudia13 Rossini: yes Quirky, it’s the tailoring, regardless of how you do it
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): They’ll learn how to modify their avs, as part of our orientation – if I can ever get that finished!
Sheila Yoshikawa: interesting claudia, I think I’d feel a bit trapped by that, i mean it looking like RL me
Claudia13 Rossini: i think it’s different for everyone Sheila….
Kali Pizzaro: ok so as long as we teach them to change and adapt their avatar anecdotally you don’t think it matters?
Sheila Yoshikawa: yes, personal thing
Beth Ghostraven: I like the RL approach personally, but it could be limiting; most people seem to want to look thinner in SL
Claudia13 Rossini: it’s more a personalization of what you want to project
Kali Pizzaro: they certainly don’t like to look like each other
Beth Ghostraven: Doug Blueskunk said the best-looking audiences are in SL
Kali Pizzaro: 
Claudia13 Rossini: nods to Kali
Galileo Zeplin: do most of the students understand that their avatars don’t necessarily have to resemble their rl selves?
Sheila Yoshikawa: @kali no there are jokes about twins, but it seems sort of embarrasing for them
Beth Ghostraven: Yeah, someone showed up in the same outfit I had, so I changed my clothes
Claudia13 Rossini: good question Galileo
Beth Ghostraven: confusing otherwise
Quirky McArdle: I was working today on the new orientation experience for our Starlight education grid and we’ve actually gone to the extent of creating a tp that moves them to a private changing room to avoid embarrassment
Sheila Yoshikawa: Thinking about it – borrowing avatars vs making your own – there are pragmatic issues either way
Beth Ghostraven: Quirky, changing room is a good idea!
Claudia13 Rossini: we have those on the univ of Penn campus Quirky
Claudia13 Rossini: (at least i made them 3 years ago)
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Claudia, Penn has a place for free clothes & skins, right?
Quirky McArdle nods. Of course, our K-12 grid only allows choice of fantastical avatars like elves and fairies and robots and such and they don’t have body parts, per se, that’s only available on the high ed public-facing grid.
Claudia13 Rossini: no, though i do offer them notecards with links and a box with about 20 some ‘normal’ shapes
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): There was a decision by Linden Lab that educators could re-use stock avatars. But that was an opinion by Claudia Linden way back when
Kali Pizzaro: so do you see that change happening with the students? do they cahnge to look like themselves (not sure dan knows what his students look like)
Kali Pizzaro: or not
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: or maybe to look like something or someone different?
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Iggy, Linden Lab is letting us do the same thing. Usually you’re limited in how many avs you can create, but I got a special dispensation to create a bunch.
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): I don’t know until the end of the semester, or unless they post a picture in Skype.
Sheila Yoshikawa: @kali I would say not so much LOOK like themselves, more BE like themselves
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): But they rarely look like their avatar. Except for the robots!
Galileo Zeplin: heh
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Mine usually tried to make themselves again in SL, then branch out.
Kali Pizzaro: lol yes behaviour and social norms maybe more likely than looks
Claudia13 Rossini: (i look close to my av, though i took off about 20 years)
Kali Pizzaro: ?
Sheila Yoshikawa: ?
Kali Pizzaro: sorry behaviour as opposed to looks was the question
Kali Pizzaro: or is it hard to tell if they are in a teaching environment
Sheila Yoshikawa: yes I think so, sort of style as well as behaviour
Kali Pizzaro: so they act like students 
Sheila Yoshikawa: lol
Claudia13 Rossini: lol
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Mine doesn’t look like me – but my sister (who was an artist) designed it when I got my job. So I feel a sentimental attachment to it.
Delenn Daines: I put out a bunch of boxes with free clothing and avies on my campus as a scavenger hunt
Kali Pizzaro: ah interesting Grizzla
Kali Pizzaro: good idea Deleen
Beth Ghostraven: Delenn, I like that–gives them experience moving around
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Delenn Daines: yes and they get to know the campus
Kali Pizzaro: So is there a Gender difference (Iggy only changed his clothes recently) Dan has never i dont think?
Claudia13 Rossini: actually i think customizing your av is the fastest way to get immersed and learn about the basic skills in SL…shopping learning
Kali Pizzaro:
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): I wore a John Lennon shirt once!
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Claudia13 Rossini: lol Dan
Sheila Yoshikawa: I think there’s a bit of a gender difference
Zotarah Shepherd: I agree Claudia
Sheila Yoshikawa: lol Dan
Kali Pizzaro: in what way – females change more?
Kali Pizzaro: or are more elaborate?
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: Female friend of mine has same body, different clothes.
Zotarah Shepherd: on the teen grid all they wanted here was to go shopping
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): I still love SL clothes, as many have noticed. My sister had a couple of stores in SL, and she’s the one who really got me interested in SL.
Sheila Yoshikawa: you can’t generalise – but – i would say some of the males play around with whacky amusing shapes and colours e.g very fat or turning oneself blue
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: I dress for the occasion… from the shape out
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): You can learn a lot about economics in SL. I am surprised more economists do not send students in
Claudia13 Rossini: now i hate most SL clothes, which is why even though i own tons, i usually wear only a few
Zotarah Shepherd: I have more clothes in SL then I have in RL.
Kali Pizzaro: around shopping iggy?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): sure, Kali
Kali Pizzaro: one main study was it Castronova?
Beth Ghostraven: Iggy, do you want to Washington Post article on VW economics?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): it’s a big part of this virtual economy
Sheila Yoshikawa: yes it’s fascinating for marketing experimentation too
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I missed it, Beth. Do you have a link for us?
Sheila Yoshikawa: it all happens at an accelerated rate
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Dan, a prof in one of the University System of Georgia campuses, uses SL for his business students in sort of that way.
Claudia13 Rossini: it certainly verifies that sex sells
Sheila Yoshikawa: @claudia why do you hate them?
Beth Ghostraven: looking in my closet…
Claudia13 Rossini: because i consider 99.99999% of the designers terrible, the textures/fabric cheap….but i’m known for my snobbery, and i admit i have been shoppinng at neiman marcus for decades
Zotarah Shepherd: I have to wear modesty undershirts for most outfits in SL
Beth Ghostraven: Here you go: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/28/the-economics-of-video-games/
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I do not want to hear *women in SL* complain about clothing. Consider the men! It’s either biker or urban hipster or Goth for the boys
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): thank you, Beth
Marc Rexen: A few good suits.
Beth Ghostraven: yw
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): true, Marc
Zotarah Shepherd: I have a list of a few designers I like in SL, unfortunately some aren’t around any more.
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): students were amazed at the range of goods for sale
Quirky McArdle: Claudia, try Coco…
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: I know where you could get some Hawaiian shirts.
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Not entirely, Iggy. As Marc demonstrates. My husband’s av also has some nice professional attire.
Beth Ghostraven: I like quality clothing for RL, but for SL I like free or bargains
Galileo Zeplin: hmmm…so are we seeing rl stereotypes bleeding over into sl avatar style and clothing?
Claudia13 Rossini: thanks Quirky, but the truth is, my tastes are not like most peoples..in rl i wear mostly eskandar
Beth Ghostraven: RL bleeds into just about everything, doesn’t it?
Marc Rexen: It’s an aspect of the engagement of the individual with the environment.
Claudia13 Rossini: no, what i see out there is ‘fredricks of hollywood’
Sheila Yoshikawa: @galileo yes, except the thing about stereotypes is that often there is a truth behind the stereotype lol
Beth Ghostraven: lol Claudia, I agree
Kali Pizzaro: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=338500
Marc Rexen: So many are “uncomfortable” here until they find just what works for them.
Galileo Zeplin: does anyone consider the avatar itself…an article of clothing?
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: yes
Kali Pizzaro: no
Claudia13 Rossini: i do Grizzy
Galileo Zeplin: changeable in a way our rl selves are not
Kali Pizzaro: mmm
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): In RL I’m mostly a jeans and tee shirts person – and Vibram Fivefingers, whenever I can get away with it. But in SL, no clothes or shoes are uncomfortable.
Kali Pizzaro: i see it as a representation of me
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): When we did a gender-switch week, it was hilarious. The female students had to help the males with their looks.
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: I spend a lot of time as a Tiny.
Sheila Yoshikawa: I think of my hair like a piece of clothing, but I feel more that the shape and skin are body
Claudia13 Rossini: instant plastic surgery, conforming to what tv sees as ‘reality’
Kali Pizzaro:
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Funny how IRL, I wear suits and ties because it’s what students expect on this campus
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): but here, a tophat and Ramones T (or a suit!)
Sheila Yoshikawa: so justto think of the students – I don’t think it’s that you HAVE to like playing around with your SL appearance to get hooked on SL , but would we say it is one of teh things that encourages people to come back to SL?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): 13 on the sim, for the transcript
Beth Ghostraven: LoCE, now that I think about it, this is the first time I’ve seen you as a human (is that right?) avi!
Claudia13 Rossini: lord, i get uncomfortable when i make both male and female av’s for people….like my ‘skin’ doesn’t fit….my view of myself gets thrown off till i return to my av
Sheila Yoshikawa: liking playing round making stuff, building, that seems another “hook”
Quirky McArdle: CAn I ask a question on another topic?
Kali Pizzaro: creativity
Kali Pizzaro: please do
Sheila Yoshikawa: I’ve seen LOCE as a human full size before …
Kali Pizzaro: i was going to ask for q now anyway
Kali Pizzaro: so go Quirky
Quirky McArdle: So, completely unrelated: What is anybody’s sense about how many educators are using or have tried open sim environments and their perceptions of their experiences there?
Kali Pizzaro: Go Iggy
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Sheila, those who alter their avatar seem to be more invested in it, see it more as an extension of themselves, and get working/playing in a virtual world more than those who do not do so. At least, that’s what I’ve seen.
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: Depends where I’m going. Here, I’m mostly human.
Marc Rexen: I know I’ve dabbled in OpenSim – the OSGrid.
Claudia13 Rossini: nods to Dan, that’s been my experience
Kali Pizzaro: I tried it but ended back in SL
Marc Rexen: Issue is lack of services and “fluidity of use.”
Beth Ghostraven: Quirky, overall, I think very few; I don’t personally know any educators who use VW at all, only those I’ve met here or through an online class
Kali Pizzaro: i want the community even though most of what my students do is locked down i open it up also and collaborate
Marc Rexen: Search, groups, Inventory, voice – all easy in SL compared to pretty much every other grid.
Claudia13 Rossini: I know quite a few, but then what i do puts me in touch with a lot of educators
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): We are a niche, Quirky. I find economists study WoW and not SL
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Dan so it could be seen as a facilitator of immersion; what I wonder is whether people who playing round with clothes outside SL might be attracted by that side of things in SL and therefore more likely to immerse?
Galileo Zeplin: iggy, is that because wow has so many more users than sl?
Quirky McArdle: a followup, then?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): even in game studies, we are niche within a niche. Our new game-studies person has little interest in SL, probably because she focuses on games she likes to play
Kali Pizzaro: I think that whatever grid fits the purpose people use although a recent VW report from the UK most still use SL
Claudia13 Rossini: i don’t think so Sheila….i design clothes in r/l…..but would not consider doing it in SL
Marc Rexen: I certainly didn’t care that much about clothes in RL Vs. SL, but learned that snappy dressing, helped.
Marc Rexen: in SL.
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @Galileo, my hunch is that all academics who study games study only those they like to play
Quirky McArdle: Iggy: Is that true of SL as well?
Sheila Yoshikawa: hmm just wondering whether there is research into different habits, preferenes outside sl and whether these correlate to getting immersed….
Kali Pizzaro: I think SL attract social scientist
Beth Ghostraven: Iggy, do you think they’re looking for justification for playing?
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): that’s a good question, @Sheila. I would think so, unless they see SL as beneath them–like playing with dolls rather than real clothes!
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: I was really surprised how much I liked “playing pixel dolls,” as my husband puts it.
Kali Pizzaro: as it is a social virtual worlds
Quirky McArdle wonders the same thing, Beth…
Sheila Yoshikawa: @iggy my anecdotal observation has been that playing computer games does not particularly correlate with “getting” SL
Beth Ghostraven: LoCE, me too–& good way of putting it!
Kali Pizzaro: Indeed @Shiela
Sheila Yoshikawa: whereas agaian anecdotally being interested in photography does more
Marc Rexen: For some, a few, SL is a way to actually live their life as they hoped it would be, rather than trapped, which is where the accident left them.
Claudia13 Rossini: Dan, SL clothing design and construction are nothing like RL design and construction
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @Beth, yes. I only study what I enjoy, too.
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): It’s why I stayed in Grad school 
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): That’s an intriguing correlation, Sheila.
Kali Pizzaro: Did anyone answer Quirky?
Kali Pizzaro:
Beth Ghostraven: I recently read a YA book about a girl who stays immersed in a VW because her RL has gotten terrible
Kali Pizzaro: Keep the new woman (i think happy
Kali Pizzaro: winks
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): There should be a Project Runway for virtual clothes!
Claudia13 Rossini: please god nooooooooooooooo
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): lol
Claudia13 Rossini: lol
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): One day you’re in. And the next…
Beth Ghostraven: Deadly Pink, by Vivian VandeVeld
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Dan, you do know about the huge SL modeling community, right?
Beth Ghostraven: Prof Dan, I like that idea!
Quirky McArdle: I felt answered
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): YOU’RE OUT!
Claudia13 Rossini: when Anna W. and Karl L. come in here, i’ll consider SL ‘fashion’
Marc Rexen: Their designs show up here almost as soon as they’re off the runway.
Beth Ghostraven: The What Not to Wear show made a sim, but there was nowhere to buy the clothes
Sheila Yoshikawa: fatal error!
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): LOL Beth
Claudia13 Rossini: (ok, gives my av a time out….)
Zotarah Shepherd: Fashion designers do have shows and some are broadcast in SL.
Claudia13 Rossini: (sits on my hands)
Beth Ghostraven: cool, where?
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): I’m talking about inworld fashion shows with virtual clothes. It’s a huge community.
Beth Ghostraven: (although I’m sure I’m even less likely to pay designer or couture prices in SL than I am in RL)
Sheila Yoshikawa: you get them flagged up on the sl fashion feeds e.g. iheartsl.com
Kali Pizzaro: ok 15 mins left
Beth Ghostraven: thx, Sheila
Kali Pizzaro: back to education in SL
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Sheila Yoshikawa: and the fashion shows usually have goody bags though they tend to be v laggy
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Yes, back to education
Sheila Yoshikawa: ahem
Kali Pizzaro: anyone got a new project to share
Marc Rexen: In a way, this is, because it feeds into the social and feeling comfortable with yourself, and others, and that is the first step toward better discourse between people.
Beth Ghostraven: looking to make badges for my Library Guild, any suggestions where? Mozilla looks horribly complicated
Zotarah Shepherd: I am looking for a magic lamp to rub to finish my thesis,
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Don’t forget, fashion-design students cut their teeth in SL now
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Where, Iggy?
Kali Pizzaro: if you find that could you send it my way @Zo
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Not a new project, but as I was sharing with Grizzla earlier, the Michigan Community College Association Virtual Learning Collaborative is having an open house on 10/19/12 at 9 a.m. SLT at MCCAVLC Island. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/MCCAVLC%20Island/178/151/22
Kali Pizzaro: oh excellent Dan
Zotarah Shepherd: I will Kali ; )
Quirky McArdle: Thank You! for the invite, Dan
Marc Rexen: You win the prize for the longest initialism.
Kali Pizzaro: Monday Meet at the open University is starting again
Beth Ghostraven: except for the A it could be a Roman numeral
Zotarah Shepherd: I hope I can make that.
Beth Ghostraven: Kali, where/when is that?
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): I know, it’s ridiculous, @Marc!
Kali Pizzaro: two secs
Marc Rexen: I still see the French learning language students packing the social sims of their program.
Kali Pizzaro: think Iggy might kill me but…..
Kali Pizzaro: The Monday Meet has returned
Talk: Arklo Novelli’s talk is “Artists using Virtual Worlds”, it explores the character of metaverse art and whether it can be considered to be part of mainstream contemporary art practice. Bio:
Arklo Novelli and Arklo Galicia are the avatars of Dr. Peter Hagerty ( http://www.arklo.com) an artist who uses photography and a writer on metaverse art. Peter as Arklo Galicia gave a virtual presentation at ISEA Istanbul in 2011 titled “Archipelagos of Art” ( http://isea2011.sabanciuniv.edu/.hagert )
In 2012 he was published in Intellect Journal with a paper titled “Metaverse Pioneers and the Colonisation of Open Sim”
( Journal Contents http://www.intellectbooks.co.uk/journals/view-issue,id=2239/ ).
He has most recently written about the work of the Spanish metaverse artist Giovanna Cerise( http://www.arklo.com/tvbco/TVBCo_P011.html ) Peter is currently chairperson of the Chambre Hardman Trust.
Location of the Meet: We’ve decided
Beth Ghostraven: Dan, thanks for the invite; I’ll check it out if I don’t have a class then
Kali Pizzaro: that is from the educators list
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Marc, do you have landmarks or slurls to share?
Marc Rexen: I don’t, and I should.
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I won’t kill you, Kali! It’s all spelled correctly
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Marc Rexen: It’s really turned into a quiet success.
Kali Pizzaro: Sheila are you having your journal club this semester?
Kali Pizzaro: if so can you tell folks a bit about it
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Marc, if you can collect them sometime soon, we can put them into the transcript – plus I’m still collecting recommendations like that, for our students’ use.
Beth Ghostraven: yes, Sheila, I enjoyed the meetings I went to, as well as the articles
Sheila Yoshikawa: oops sorry i was rootling in my inventory
Sheila Yoshikawa: yes, we are still having journal club
Sheila Yoshikawa: the next meeting is on October 31st
Zotarah Shepherd: Halloween!
Sheila Yoshikawa: noon SL time
Kali Pizzaro: wooo fancy dress
Sheila Yoshikawa: yes, there will be spookiness on the sim
Kali Pizzaro: do you have the paper yet and a slurl
Kali Pizzaro: ?
Sheila Yoshikawa: http://infolitischool.pbworks.com/w/page/19904113/Calendar%20of%20events
Kali Pizzaro: wooo cheers
Sheila Yoshikawa: is where things are advertised
Kali Pizzaro: great talks folks you should go
Sheila Yoshikawa: Pancha Enzyme will lead discussion on: Collins, E. and Jubb, M. (2012) How do researchers in the humanities use information resources? Liber quarterly, 21 (2), 176–187?http://liber.library.uu.nl/index.php/lq/article/download/8017/8365
Beth Ghostraven: yay, thanks!
Sheila Yoshikawa: nfolit iSchool, Second Life, http://slurl.com/secondlife/Infolit%20iSchool/106/208/30/
Kali Pizzaro: excellent
Quirky McArdle: thanks so much, everybody and hope to see you next time. have to run!
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: bye
Galileo Zeplin: tc
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): nice to meet you, Quirky
Quirky McArdle smiles and waves
Sheila Yoshikawa: bye quirky
Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks everyone
Beth Ghostraven: I’ll be around, but I want to follow some of these LMs I just got
Beth Ghostraven: Thanks for another inspiring meeting, all!
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): by the way, we are about caught up on transcripts, if you missed any meetings in late summer
Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks Iggy
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Yes, almost caught up!
Kali Pizzaro: woo cheers all sorry was afk for a sec
Kali Pizzaro: thanks for coming
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia) grins at Grizzla
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): what is our topic next week?
Kali Pizzaro: Kali coughs and blows her nose
Kali Pizzaro: eh
Kali Pizzaro: its a surprise
Sheila Yoshikawa: lol
Zotarah Shepherd: This meeting always inspires me
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Who is our moderator next week? I won’t be here…
Kali Pizzaro: Sheila?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I guess I’ll step in and bark at everyone
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Kali Pizzaro: fancy being a moderator
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid) will be very sorry to miss that
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia) hopes Sheila says yes
Kali Pizzaro: talk about landing her in it
Sheila Yoshikawa: will look forward to it Iggy
Zotarah Shepherd: I will try to be here but not guarantees.
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): CO HOST
Sheila Yoshikawa: what where when?
Kali Pizzaro: lol very diplomatic Sheila
Kali Pizzaro: haha
Kali Pizzaro: sorry i was very chekky
Kali Pizzaro: cheeky
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): what would YOU like to talk about, says the Rogerian moderator
Kali Pizzaro: and landed you in the mix
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): LOL
Kali Pizzaro: please say no if you are not able it was just my madness
Sheila Yoshikawa: next week should be ok, providing I know what the topic is supposed to be!
Kali Pizzaro: you pick lol
Kali Pizzaro: or we can think of one
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): any suggestions around the table?
Kali Pizzaro:
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): we have three minutes
Kali Pizzaro: yeah any suggestions
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Something boring, since I won’t be here.
Kali Pizzaro: community input
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Sheila Yoshikawa: does it have to be about SL?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): what about something related to libraries?
Kali Pizzaro: no just VW
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Anything about VWs and education
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): we have Sheila and Beth and Lo and….whom else?
Sheila Yoshikawa: I will be teaching students about digital literacy
Sheila Yoshikawa: on thurs and friday
Sheila Yoshikawa: what about a theme about digital literacy?
Zotarah Shepherd: I’d suggest grants for VW projects but I am afraid it would be a very short meeting.
Kali Pizzaro: wooo
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): give me a topic and I’ll put in on the wiki
Kali Pizzaro: Digital literacy
Kali Pizzaro: go Sheila
Galileo Zeplin: sounds good
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): yeah, I don’t see a lot about grants for VWs
Kali Pizzaro: woop
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Digital Literacy it is.
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): What part do virtual worlds play in digital literacy?
Zotarah Shepherd: There are only about 3 I think.
Kali Pizzaro: woop Sheila i will send you the intro
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): You know, my students struggle with SL in part because of their lack of skills
Sheila Yoshikawa: ok i’ll think about a more specific question and send it to Iggy and Kali
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Might be an intriguing question to explore?
Sheila Yoshikawa: and now I will run away lol
Kali Pizzaro: fab
Zotarah Shepherd: I like that Prof
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): thanks Sheila. Dan, I’ll plug in your title as a working title for now
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): plug away!
Sheila Yoshikawa: bye for now!
