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Transcript of the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable: January 17, 2013
Topic: What will you try new with educational technology this year?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Hello everyone and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable! Our topic today is What will you try new with educational technology, this year?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: This is a public meeting in TEXT CHAT, so we will keep and publish a transcript of what is said. If you’ve not seen our transcripts, you should check them out – they are an excellent information asset.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I’m Joe Essid, Writing Center Director at the University of Richmond. Last year I used an immersive literary build based on Poe’s “Fall of the House of Usher” in Jokaydia Grid with my literature students. You’ll find a version in SL too,
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Thanks to the goodwill of Kali Pizzaro and Glasgow Caledonian University, I’ll use that build next semester for a first-year class!
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: A bit about this group, if you are new to VWER:
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: The VWER meets each Thursday at 11:30am SLT for an hour and is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Our group has met every week for over four years and we get a wide variety of educators, from seasoned veterans to the newly rezzed.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: The transcripts can be found at our newly updated web site – http://www.vwer.org
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Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Now, let’s begin as we always do, and introduce ourselves, then I’ll start in with a first question.
Claudia13 Rossini: Claudia – builder
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Dan Holt, English prof at Lansing Community College, Lansing Michigan.
Curious George: George Djorgovski, Prof at Caltech
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): don’t be shy, y’all type away
Galileo Zeplin: ed johnson, board of regents, university system of georgia
Wrenaria Antiesse: Kimmy Hescock, social and immersive media manager, Oregon State University
Grant Wishes (grantfaster): Tony Keys, prof at UW-Eau Claire
Beth Ghostraven: Beth O’Connell, middle school librarian, pub owner in Caledon Victoria City
Kali Pizzaro: Evelyn McElhinney, RN Nurse Lecturer, PhD Student health info in VWs, Glasgow Caledonian University Scotland
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia) looks for typing avatarian hands
Samantha Chester (sam55.chester): English instructor National Park Community College
Sheila Yoshikawa: I teach at Sheffield University’s iSchool in the UK – also apologies as I have to leave early today
Gann McGann: Mark Childs, sometime Senior Research Fellow at Coventry University, sometime freelance education consultant
David Stack (richmedia): David Stack Deputy CIO, UW-Milwaukee
Cindy Bolero: Cynthia Stagner, Virtual Worlds Developer for Education and Occupational Training , College Instructor, hybrid events webcasting Director, San Francisco/Silicon Valley
Kali Pizzaro: don’t be shy
Kali Pizzaro: and welcome to new folk
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): yes, welcome new folks!
Kali Pizzaro: 25 on the the sim for the transcript
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): nice turnout for a broad topic
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): let’s begin, before we type, by thinking of one new thing you’ll do with educational technology this year–virtual worlds or otherwise. Then list it, whether you are teaching with it or supporting it.
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): For instance
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I’m using Google Drive to store shared class notes that students can annotate, to help them build close reading skills
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): so list one of your new uses of tech in education
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): We’re introducing SL in one section of an additional IT course this semester.
Gann McGann: using a bot to help guide students through learning materials
Grant Wishes (grantfaster): Teaching Mobile Application Development with Sybase Unwired Platform as an illustration of an O-O system – makes real apps for real mobile devices
Curious George: I am teaching a Coursera class, and I’m about to try doing virtual office hours in SL
Beth Ghostraven: Teaching students and teachers to log in to the online library catalog so they can write shared book reviews
Kali Pizzaro: i want to look at VR (Cave) but more for teaching but also research
Kali Pizzaro: however we shall see lol
Cindy Bolero: Affordable Online Web-based game engine 3D spaces for virtual classrooms and hazardous occupations training
Grant Wishes (grantfaster): Teaching Project Management via an SL construction project
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): BTW, if you have links to any of these projects, please share them in the transcript
Grant Wishes (grantfaster): Garn!
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Anyone else have a new tech venture under way to share?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I heard mobile computing, SL use, cloud computing, and building community among faculty and students (Beth’s project)
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): No one mentioned social media (yet)
Huge Ackman (huge.darwinian): I have The Virtual Classroom up and running set up with simplicity of use as the focus, to allow new entrants to VR to taste it without having to actually learn all the systems and skills involved.
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @Huge, in SL or another platform?
Gann McGann: you did specify “new” iggy
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): 23 on the sim for the transcript
Huge Ackman (huge.darwinian): SL. I have a sim here
Gann McGann: so social media might not count
Al Supercharge: first three practice exercises in Chemistry, Khan Academy.
Try them out at https://www.khanacademy.org/science/chemistry/chemical-reactions-stoichiometry/e/balancing_chemical_equations
Al Supercharge: interactive + video
Cindy Bolero: I can’t say yet, but will be giving sneek peek previews by invitation in the next 30 days or less
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): let us know, Cindy
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Social media counts if using it for your classes is new for you.
Curious George: I also have FB page for my class, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cosmology-Class/250886471707052
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): So let’s start with SL, where we have so long focused…
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): For those who replied about SL projects, what will be your pedagogical goals?
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): I’ll be happy if they get me a blu ray player before the end of the semester in my intro to film class. I’m teaching it in a room called the 3D theater, and no blu ray player!
Grant Wishes (grantfaster): Having students reflect on effective communication and collaboration,
Beth Ghostraven shakes her head
Beth Ghostraven: Prof Dan, that sounds so typical
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I’ll add that for my SL project, I’m going to surprise them. They just know they have a final exam “in a virtual environment”
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): That’ll definitely be a surprise!
Tori Landau: Oh gosh Iggy!
Gann McGann: i have doctoral students (specialising in educational technology) presenting their research in SL
For us – in a couple of ITEC courses – the goal is simply to give them some exposure to the wide variety of ways virtual worlds can be used.
Curious George: I want to see how effective virtual office hours can be, supplementing the on-line class experience. We can deliver the content via the Web, but that last bit of the learning process, involving a human interaction, is what is missing
Gann McGann: thats later this year
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): So I set up an orientation area on our island, specifically to teach our students enough avatar skills so that they can LEAVE our island and see some specific places built by others. BTW our orientation area is open to anybody else who finds it helpful: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/GGC%20Island/66/81/28
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia) is studying transcript…someone mentioned office hours in SL
Curious George: Me
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): tell us more about why and how you’ll do that
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): thanks, Curious (best SL name in a while sir)
Beth Ghostraven: yes, caught my attention right away!
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): @Curious, I’ve found that having regular, weekly, whole class meetings with online students really increases the sense of community/connection to the class compared to 2D tools.
Curious George: See above for why, and as for how, I’ll be at the location for at least an hour at a scheduled time, and see what happens. May do the first one this Saturday
Spiral Theas: Particularly sweet if your RL name is also George.
Kali Pizzaro: @Gann that is something i am trying to arrange might be good to share or collaborate although might be different disciplines
Spiral Theas: I’ve done office hours in SL and it’s worked fairly well, though I didn’t get as many “takers” as I’ve hoped
Curious George: I have > 28,000 students signed up for my Coursera class, but maybe only ~ 10% will remain. Even so, SL would not scale, never mind the steep learning curve
Spiral Theas: 28k!! gasp
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): It worked for me when I was off campus. We’re residential, and they love to come by (usually at random and not during office hours)
Spiral Theas: Sorry, I missed the subject of your Coursera class, @Curious
Cindy Bolero: My upcoming grid will scale, can hold hundreds of avatars in a server
Curious George: There are 6 Caltech students taking the class in RL, and that is typical. So the MOOC really does amplify the reach
Al Supercharge: @ Iggy thats where a good Chatbot comes in handy
Gann McGann: hi kali, yes i’ll keep you in touch
Simargl Talaj: Interesting.
Spiral Theas: Nice @Cindy. Opensim?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): LOL Al–I have the House of Usher Parrot bot!
Simargl Talaj: That’s a lot of capacity.
Curious George: The class is “Galaxies and Cosmology”, https://www.coursera.org/course/cosmo
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Cindy, you will host this grid yourself?
Spiral Theas: Thanks @Curious. First time running it? I was a student in a Coursera course this last fall. Terrific experience.
Simargl Talaj: Curious will your erstwhile colleagues from MICA be involved much?
Cindy Bolero: nope Im pretty much done with trying to bring students and employees into a grid using SL and similar TPV viewers. We are building interfaces and tools for the teacher
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): And can I say–thank God SL won’t scale!
Curious George: Yep, it’s a learning experience for all involved
Sheila Yoshikawa: I’m contemplating a MOOC on information literacy, though I’m on study leave this coming semester so I am trying not to work on new teaching stuff til the summer
Spiral Theas: @Cindy, interfaces and tools for the teachers? Say more?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia) nods
Cindy Bolero: well I’m under disclosure, but gosh darn it Im so excited and I keep leaking LOL
Kali Pizzaro: I am looking forward to see the research from MOOC
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): we have (finally) one other teacher here using SL
Simargl Talaj: I suppose you mean things you can create on your own system, and then show to the students without them being in the same environment in which you created the lesson?
Beth Ghostraven: Sheila, if you do that for the summer of 2014 I”ll be interested; this summer I want to learn to play WoW with the Cognitive Dissonance guild
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Well, let us know when you CAN, Cindy. It’s very exciting news
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): So next question for those working with new mobile apps and ideas
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): the issue here is platform, like the 1990s all over again
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): how will you deal with that?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Grant, you mentioned it (scanning backward)
David Stack (richmedia): I like mobile websites as opposed to downloadable apps, but I seem to be in the minority at my U
Cindy Bolero: desktop, Android, the only thing kids will need textbooks for is to take open book tests, other than that, eventually they will carry tablets. Tablets will lighten the backpack quite a bit
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): That’s a way around the Android/iOS issue
Grant Wishes (grantfaster): So install a browser on the device, run the app in it
Kali Pizzaro: I am using apps at the moment and may be looking a developing some apps with our computer people. yeah is it better to create it on the web then convert to an app?
Grant Wishes (grantfaster): Browser is available for iOS, Android, Windows phone
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Wish I had an ereader when I was in school. Most of the stuff I read for literature classes would have been free.
Spiral Theas: Any progress toward vw’s on a tablet?
Cindy Bolero: desktop/laptop is not going away, even with all the hype of mobile
Beth Ghostraven: I heard someone talking (here last week?) about tablet and phone apps for VWs
Cindy Bolero: there’s an app for iphone or android, not sure which one, you can use SL in 3D instead of just mapping and chat
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): True, Cindy, but Desktops are in labs only here…polled my 16 first-years and not ONE brought a desktop to campus
Grant Wishes (grantfaster): Pocket Metaverse lets you do limited things in SL on an iPad
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @Beth, Grizzla has been working with mobile apps for viewing SL
UCMO Hotshot: Cindy, film hasn’t gone away yet either, but it is fading very fast
Kali Pizzaro: check last weeks transcript: mobile apps for sl was the theme
Cindy Bolero: . I have a bank of computers at home and at studio. so the working force will still use deskops/laptops.
Spiral Theas: Yes, I know about Pocketmetaverse, but as you say, it’s so limited. Really just chat.
Spiral Theas: Sure would be great to be in a vw on a tablet.
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): But only Pocket metaverse is only text and map, no 3d avatar or sims.
Cindy Bolero: I hated watching my kid lug heavy textbooks in his backpack. Tablets just make sense
Kali Pizzaro: there are hundred of mobile apps that are great for teaching or for organising study etc
Al Supercharge: Lumiya is the android viewer (limited capabilty)
Wrenaria Antiesse: there’s Lumiya for android
Wrenaria Antiesse: http://www.lumiyaviewer.com/
Spiral Theas: I agree @Cindy. Hopefully that’s where we’re heading.
Al Supercharge: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory
Cindy Bolero: Yeah I have pocket metaverse, but a friend told me he uses app that is 3D interface for SL
Kali Pizzaro: Sorry guys but we had a whole session on this last week
Al Supercharge: Pocket Metaverse is text – for IMs
Kali Pizzaro: I do think we could use apps better for assessment
Cindy Bolero: yes but can tp and map with PM, not just text
Kali Pizzaro: let students collate and create using something like
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Say more, Kali..about apps and assessment
Kali Pizzaro: well oh eh what is the name of the app that you can collate
Kali Pizzaro: all types of media
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): And while I’m at it, I’m all interested in the collaboration on reviews that Beth mentioned
Spiral Theas: Here’s an article I caught yesterday on the whole mobile platform debate: http://blog.brightcove.com/en/2012/11/bipartisan-solutions-ending-religious-wars-over-mobile-platforms
Beth Ghostraven’s head pops up
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): EVERNOTE
Kali Pizzaro: woop that is the one
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I had been planning to use it if I got the iPad grant…grrr
Kali Pizzaro: maybe use it to collate all types of media for an assessment
Beth Ghostraven: I stopped using Evernote because it constantly updates while I’m using it on the phone
Beth Ghostraven: syncs
Kali Pizzaro: ah
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): cannot reset the frequency, Beth?
Kali Pizzaro: well something similar
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Mine only does that when I log on
Spiral Theas: Know what you mean @Beth, I think you can change that in your settings though.
Kali Pizzaro: just a thought that popped into my head there lol
Al Supercharge: 4 Tips to Make a Laptops-in-School Program Succeed http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2013/01/4-tips-to-make-a-laptops-in-school-program-succeed009.html
Simargl Talaj: It’s no trouble finding things that do what you want them to do. The obstacle is often getting them to stop doing what you don’t want them to do.
Spiral Theas: I also switched to using Evernote only in my browser, instead of the app. That helped me have more control.
Al Supercharge: We want kids to be toting Gamer Laptops
Kali Pizzaro: http://evernote.com/
Spiral Theas: Thanks @Al – good one.
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Google Apps are changing so fast it’s hard to keep up, too
Beth Ghostraven: I”ve been using Google Docs instead, that syncs between all of my computers
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): I know I do, Al!
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Drive just made sharing folders easier, and we reached a tipping point where even faculty can “get it”
Kali Pizzaro: however folks are right we need to think about access
Spiral Theas: Interesting, so you’re finding that faculty are more open to using Google drive for collaboration and sharing docs?
Kali Pizzaro: when suggesting apps
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): I use Google Docs with students on MOAP (media on a prim).
Wrenaria Antiesse: I love Drive, I’m super dependent on it for collabs with colleagues
Spiral Theas: Ah, yes, I’ve tried that too, Dan. Seems to work well.
Kali Pizzaro: yes @Dan need to talk to you about that at some point
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @Spiral, they just are able to figure it out, whereas before they got stymied by the interface
Spiral Theas: Good to know, Wrenaria.
Wrenaria Antiesse: (and getting through my daily life, for that matter)
Spiral Theas: 😉
Wrenaria Antiesse: 😀
SemonRatvey: if i can add some other … do you know sync.in?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Dan’s example is an excellent way to leverage two free apps
Beth Ghostraven: There must be tutorials out there about how to make the best use of Drive
Spiral Theas: @Iggy, ahhh…interesting.
Kali Pizzaro: please add any links folks
Second Life: Camie Rembrandt is online.
Spiral Theas: No, Semon. Don’t know that one?
Spiral Theas: Used for?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): here are my current class notes (students can begin annotating next week)
SemonRatvey: its online
SemonRatvey: for sharing a document between some people
Spiral Theas: Gotcha.
Simargl Talaj: At my school the online learning software, instructions, and troubleshooting tips are all oriented toward PC. We had a stupid problem with Adobe Reader that plagued Mac users the whole first semester and somehow couldn’t get technical support to post the workaround in a way that Mac users would easily find it.
Simargl Talaj: One problem like that can absorb so much time and emotional attention. It’s maddening.
SemonRatvey: something like google doc but without a client
Spiral Theas: Ugh.
SemonRatvey: any mail
Simargl Talaj: Google is nicely universal.
SemonRatvey: try it
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): https://docs.google.com/document/d/10vpj7mwGalo6C1Q0x4CL_Ee6B7KHsINzyNFIZ-rCTh8/edit and they are for Part I of Wu’s The Master Switch, our first book
SemonRatvey: i like very much for doing some work all together online from our homes
SemonRatvey: each one has a colour also
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Google Docs works without a client as well for all but the originator of the document. Sounds interesting, though, @Semon.
SemonRatvey: and it saves instantaneously
Al Supercharge: there is a SL instructor here that teaches Photoshop tools using https://join.me/
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Students enjoy being able to collaborate and add value to a set of notes, while getting credit for it
Al Supercharge: screen sharing
SemonRatvey: its another one
Beth Ghostraven: That’s something I need to learn about–I do a lot of collaboration, and it’s often hard to meet in real-time
SemonRatvey: very easy to use
Kali Pizzaro: for me there are so many health apps that it can spin your head trying to choose which ones to use or direct your students to
Kali Pizzaro: http://mobihealthnews.com/19206/apples-top-80-apps-for-doctors-nurses-patients/
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Beth, do you expect more faculty or students to do the reviews you mentioned?
Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): @Kali – top EIGHTY health apps – o.0
SemonRatvey: yes @Beth
Beth Ghostraven: (by the way, Adobe is still giving away Photoshop, I think)
Beth Ghostraven: students
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): join.me can be very helpful to show a student your viewer, if they’re just not getting how to do something.
Spiral Theas: They are, @Beth?!
Beth Ghostraven: My Library Guild will be all over that
Kali Pizzaro: yes Dan and there is an app for that!
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): And Beth, this is on a closed network? My wife shared iMovie interviews with famous writers, played by students, that way
Spiral Theas smiles
Beth Ghostraven: no, the catalog’s online, but I’ll approve the reviews and comments
Beth Ghostraven: & first names only
Spiral Theas: Can I ask the group, do you have a favorite SL builder to recommend? For setting up a venue, with seating, screens, ambience, etc.
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): ah..thanks Beth, you answered my Q about privacy
Kali Pizzaro: cough Claudia
Kali Pizzaro: look around you Spiral
Kali Pizzaro: However @Spiral she is very busy
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): So we have 15 minutes and have discussed
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): SL
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Mobile tech
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): sharing / collaboration
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): cloud based work
Beth Ghostraven: I hope it’ll work, and I don’t get swamped in approvals
Al Supercharge: Adobe cs2 available for FREE with license key from Adobe http://www.adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html I tried downloading the “free” acrobat reader professional — but it failed
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): sounds exciting! What have we not gotten to?
Beth Ghostraven: I started using Chore Wars to keep track of tasks for the Library Guild, but I’ve gotten bogged down with having to do it all myself
Beth Ghostraven: One student gave himself 270 XP for things he didn’t do
Spiral Theas: Thanks, Kali!
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Yes, Beth, that’s the way it goes. For our faculty directors’ group I manage the Google Docs, but another colleague has set up the e-list and Google Group
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Someone ends up as admin
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Beth, so you do points as in a game? I’m trying that in my First year class
Cindy Bolero: Spiral there are many venues already built, perhaps you should inquire about borrowing one
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I’m going to run it like a game: https://sites.google.com/site/fyscyberspace/administrivia
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): The gamers got it instantly and the slackers dropped the class
SemonRatvey: how old are your students, @Iggy?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): all are 18-19 first years
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): still very much high-schoolers at heart
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): yes, first year undergrads
SemonRatvey: i have also some first year students at university
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): There are “easter eggs” for extra credit, some in RL locations on campus
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): all linked to pedagogical tasks
SemonRatvey: where do you work, if i can ask you?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I’m at University of Richmond
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): we are encouraged to innovate in the first year seminars
SemonRatvey: Thanks @Iggy, its so good to hear this!
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): So in our last 5 minutes….any other topics we did not cover today?
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): and BTW, Huge Ackman offered space in SL to those with teaching needs. I’ll share his SLURL now
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Haven%20II/57/57/22
SemonRatvey: it has been really amazing for me to come here, thanks to Pilar to advice me
Mia (praxislady.witt): wow, all sounds so good and I thank everyone for sharing :))
Kali Pizzaro: how about augmented reality
Spiral Theas: Thanks everyone. Good session. Have to run.
Kali Pizzaro: Semon you are welcome anytime please join the group
SemonRatvey: i have done, Kali
Kali Pizzaro: grand
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Thank you, Semon, for joining us, and to other first-time VWERers too
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): you can join our group as it’s open enrollment or we can add you
Kali Pizzaro: @iggy i am also offering land to rent on my islands IM me if you want to discuss
Pilar (pilarteach): Thank you
Kali Pizzaro: anyone
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): oh the LANDLADY!
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Spiral Theas: Thanks, Kali! Good to know.
Kali Pizzaro: sorry wee cheeky advert there
Tori Landau grins
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): she only turns the dogs on you after you skip two months’ reent
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): rent even
SemonRatvey: how frequently do you make these round tables?
Kali Pizzaro: woof
Kali Pizzaro: every week
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @Semon, every Thursday at 11:30 SLT
SemonRatvey: ok, kali, thanks
Kali Pizzaro: join us on facebook or google + for event messages
Tori Landau: They are great Semon. I’ve learnt so much from them.
Spiral Theas: Your announcements on Facebook are always very helpful, Kali.
Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Kali even got ME to join Facebook
Spiral Theas: There you go.
Kali Pizzaro: on that note we are always looking for folk to help with moderating so if you feel up to it IM me
Prof. Dan (profdan.netizen): Welcome to the dark side, Iggy.