May 2, 2013: Open Forum
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Transcript of the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable May 2, 2013
Topic: Open Forum
Kali Pizzaro: Hi everyone, and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable. We meet Thursday 11:30am SLT for an hour. 7:30pm In UK, Est 2:30pm. VWER is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education.
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Kali Pizzaro: Tonight’s theme: Open Forum
Kali Pizzaro: Let’s start as we always do with introductions
Beth Ghostraven: Beth Ghostraven, middle school librarian in RL and owner of the Book and Tankard Pub in Victoria City, Caledon in SL; unofficial liaison between education groups in SL; @booklady9
recording this chat on Google Docs at https://docs.google.com/document/d/12cmroPPSZVBlVTtnYKbZxYKzXWf3SyotsGNCcVZJdw8/edit?usp=sharing
Kali Pizzaro: I am Evelyn McElhinney RN, Lecturer, Doctoral Student
Kali Pizzaro: Glasgow Caledonian University, Scotland
Beth Ghostraven: oops, jumped the gun
Kali Pizzaro: tut you can’t get the staff
Kali Pizzaro: hehe
Beth Ghostraven: the talking staff, I’m assuming
Beth Ghostraven pouts
Kali Pizzaro: a wee joke
Oronoque Westland: why pout?
Kali Pizzaro: ok so introduce folks
Beth Ghostraven: I don’t get the staff!
Grizzla: Chris Robinson, Georgia Gwinnett College, metro Atlanta. I support faculty who use SL in their courses, and do the SL orientations for the students.
Zotarah Shepherd: I am working on an MA in Education Technology at Sonoma State University in northern California. I finished my classes. My Thesis project: Teaching and Learning Life Awareness & Success Skills is taking a loooong time.
Wrenaria Antiesse is Kimmy Hescock, social and immersive media manager, Oregon State University
Esparanza Freese is Hope Botterbusch with 41 days til I retire!
Oronoque Westland: Roberta Kilkenny, Hunter College, City University of New York…teach Caribbean Studies, mentor educational technology
ThinkererSelby Evans: Selby Evans. retired Prof of psychology, TCU. Now blogging about virtual worlds http://virtualoutworlding.blogspot.com/ Education is one of the topics I cover
Luz Silvia: Soy Silvia Brugnoni, Magister en Ciencias Sociales. Me parece importante SL por las posibilidades que brinda
Julia Tiraxibar: Hello – I’m an instructional professor at Texas A&M U in chemistry, and assessing labs in SL thru NSF grant.
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Terry McNeeley at University of Central Missouri, Instructional Designer – and the only one on campus that builds in SL. Currently working on a CDC style investigation of an outbreak in a rural town
Galileo Zeplin: ed johnson, board of regents, university system of georgia
Lady Dragoness Koni: Connie Lantz USC doctoral student, Ed Psych, college adjunct, support specialist at Glendale College in California
Luz Silvia: Sorry: soy de Argentina.
Kali Pizzaro: Oh we should talk Hotshot
David Stack: David Stack, Deputy CIO, UW-Milwaukee
Sheila Yoshikawa: I teach at Sheffield University UK in the iSchool
Kali Pizzaro: check my profile, Hotshot
Kali Pizzaro: anyone else
Kali Pizzaro: going
Zotarah Shepherd: 22 on the sim
Kali Pizzaro: going
Oronoque Westland: Bienvenido Luz
Kali Pizzaro: gone to Sheila’s wings
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: @Kali, yes we should afterwards?
Kali Pizzaro: ok folks
Sheila Yoshikawa: i’ll try not to poke people’s eyes out with them
Lady Dragoness Koni: hehe
Kali Pizzaro: so we have an open forum tonight, day. Zo Shepard who you know has long been a member of VWER is going to moderate with me herding cats if required
Zotarah Shepherd grins
Kali Pizzaro: So over to you Zo
Beth Ghostraven: YAY Zo!!!
Zotarah Shepherd: What a great group.
Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks. My first time moderating here.
Grizzla: I have a question…
Wrenaria Antiesse briefly wonders if she should turn into an actual cat
Zotarah Shepherd: Open Forum so any ideas for topics?
Wrenaria Antiesse: :p
Kali Pizzaro: good questions lol
ThinkererSelby Evans: do you have an agenda?
Zotarah Shepherd: Some questions just burning?
Lady Dragoness Koni: immersion as therapy?
Grizzla: How long do you think it takes for newcomers to SL, to start to really feel comfortable using avatars etc?
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Oculus Rift and SL who is psyched?
Lady Dragoness Koni: best examples of data presentation?
Zotarah Shepherd: Not really Thinker We usually have topics but this is an open forum today
Beth Ghostraven: Oculus Rift and SL who is frightened?
Zotarah Shepherd: Ideas for new directions in virtual worlds education?
Sheila YoshikawaSheila Yoshikawa googles “Oculus Rift”
David Stack: I’m not comfortably yet, but all I do in SL is come here which isn’t too difficult.
Beth Ghostraven: immersion in virtual worlds
Zotarah Shepherd: Should we be frightened Beth?
Beth Ghostraven: I don’t know enough about it
Beth Ghostraven: but maybe
Zotarah Shepherd: Me either honestly
Kali Pizzaro: so what about oculus rift I am excited
Kali Pizzaro: but i also want to see my avi
Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: I think Oculus Rift must be experienced to believe
Lady Dragoness Koni:: thanks for the link!
Lady Dragoness Koni: so its pretty cool?
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: VR headset will allow more immersion for sure!
Beth Ghostraven: has anyone here tried it yet?
Zotarah Shepherd: Has anyone here checked it out?
Kali Pizzaro: yes maybe I like the idea I am really excited for the use in health but to address Grizzla’s q I think the avi is important
Kali Pizzaro: different type of immersion maybe Hotshot?
Beth Ghostraven: Kali, what about the avi and Oculus
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: I was tempted to order a developer kit, but am waiting for consumer model
Kali Pizzaro: well the occulus you see first person view
Lady Dragoness Koni: expensive?
Beth Ghostraven: oh, I see
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: $300
Beth Ghostraven: like mouseview
Zotarah Shepherd: I like the ability to share as avatars in a virtual world.
Oronoque Westland: I am excited but do not see a personal use for it with my students since I cannot build a virtual space high scale enough to take advantage of it
Kali Pizzaro: yes
Grizzla: My question was about people’s opinions/experience of how long it takes for newcomers to SL, to feel comfortable functioning with their avi
Kali Pizzaro: i think it differs
Wrenaria Antiesse: pretty sure my boyfriend is ordering a dev kit
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Agreed it is not for everyone, but I think on a personal level it will allow more suspension of disbelief
Beth Ghostraven: It took me a couple of months to feel comfortable
Sheila Yoshikawa: I don’t have any disbelief lol
Lady Dragoness Koni: heheh
Wrenaria Antiesse: not sure what he is going to try and do with it yet though
Zotarah Shepherd: It took me 2 weeks or so to feel comfortable in SL. Before that I wanted to throw my computer out the window.
Beth Ghostraven: I get so immersed as it is that I’m uneasy about becoming even more immersed
Beth Ghostraven: like I’ll forget to come up for air
Sheila Yoshikawa: As Kali says, I think it varies, some people never feel comfortable
ThinkererSelby Evans: I don ‘t recall ever feeing uncomfortable — just curious
Oronoque Westland: I do not remembr my first day in SL but I do know that I met the Librarians and also the VAI folks almost immediately so had a great deal of really good and friendly support
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: On that note: Woman with Parkinson’s Reports Significant Physical Recovery After Using Second Life – Academics Researching
Kali Pizzaro: yes maybe skill in general is important to move but actually the psychological repsonse may differ
Sheila Yoshikawa: I think also some people don’t see why they ought to feel comfortable or not – they don’t get sufficiently engaged to feel “uncomfortable”
Kali Pizzaro: yes
Lady Dragoness Koni: oh interesting
Grizzla: We’re just finishing our second semester having students in SL as a brief module in an IT course. One of the most common challenges they’ve told me about, is that they simply have trouble moving their avies around. That surprised me.
Kali Pizzaro: I have found this with my PhD also hotshot
Kali Pizzaro: several people have changed their behaviour
Beth Ghostraven: I had a lot of trouble at first
Beth Ghostraven: moving
Kali Pizzaro: but I will tell all later
Zotarah Shepherd: There are several places that help newcomers get used to SL and some other virtual worlds that were not available when I started in 2007
Beth Ghostraven: and if there’s lag, it’s even worse, of course
David Stack: I have a minimal MacBook Air, so moving around is challenging – lots of lag.
David Stack: Hence the wheelchair. It’s easier to maneuver than walking.
Sheila Yoshikawa: yes – agree it is a major frustration – lag – just like it was 6 years ago
Wrenaria Antiesse: boo lag
Kali Pizzaro: what about the uncanny valley
Beth Ghostraven: what’s that, Kali?
Zotarah Shepherd: Maybe it depends on the viewer the students use and the mentoring they get when they start Grizzla. What do you think?
Grizzla: Yes, Zo, lots of places to help newcomers – and in fact I built one for our specific learning objectives. But it takes practice… and I’m just trying to get a better concept of how much practice it takes, to feel comfortable..
Lucio Pelazzi: I find that their are many people with varied disabilities here in SL. I know of an Iraq war vet who lost both legs in an IED explosion and SL lets him do things that he finds difficult to do in RL
Zotarah Shepherd: The main thing is to get immersed and have it be fun too.
Grizzla: Because we may need to give them more time in SL… I’m trying to decide how much time to recommend.
Sheila Yoshikawa: I think that is certainly important Zo, but I think there are other factors too – life stage, “personality” ….
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: I think that a user has to get personally ‘attached’ to his/her avatar and from that point is able to project themselves into the avatar, emotionally…
Oronoque Westland: I wonder if noobs using Firestorm have an easier time than when there was only the LL viewer, since Firestorm has 24×7 online support right here in SL
Lady Dragoness Koni: agreed
Sheila Yoshikawa: You’ve read Mark Child’s stuff, Grizzla, about the stages of immersion?
Kali Pizzaro: Bayne’s paper I linked to may be of interested not sure i am finding or havve found the same
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Kali Pizzaro: Sheila I am interviewing him next week
Lady Dragoness Koni: cool
Grizzla: I haven’t read Mark’s stuff, Sheila. what would be good to start with?
Kali Pizzaro: check out his blog
Kali Pizzaro: and be ready with q next week
Zotarah Shepherd: Maybe not so much age as experience too. I had participated in a chat room for women for 3 years so the text part of SL was not new to me. More people play Role play games might have an easier time in a virtual world too.
ThinkererSelby Evans: Anybody got link to Mark’s blog?
Zotarah Shepherd: I haven’t read Marks stuff either. A link would be great
Beth Ghostraven: http://markchilds.org/
ThinkererSelby Evans: ty
Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks Beth
Beth Ghostraven: yw
Grizzla: Yes thanks Beth
Sheila Yoshikawa: ah beat me to it Beth!
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: I think a few find it restricting, SL, as a visitor, your imagination is stifled as all the visuals are presented to you, unlike in a book where it is described but left to the reader to imagine the scene…
Beth Ghostraven: find what restricting, Hotshot?
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Second Life in general
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: I do not
Zotarah Shepherd: I like that you can build your own vision in a virtual world unlike other tech or books
ThinkererSelby Evans: But in SL I can build what I can imagine
Beth Ghostraven: and you can also see others’ visions
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: as I am an active builder, but to someone that is merely a passive user…
Sheila Yoshikawa: agree Thinkerer
Kali Pizzaro: good point thinker
Kali Pizzaro: no design is important to other user, residents
Sheila Yoshikawa: even if you can’t build, you can put together a vision drawing on the huge amount of stuff that others have created
Kali Pizzaro: never underestimate your build
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: I am repeating the feedback from a few users that don’t get it
Zotarah Shepherd: If students can see how building is possible in a VW it opens a new media of expression.
Luz Silvia: Important meeting that possibility of building that has second life
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: I’ve found SL to be divisive in some respects, they either really like it or totally dismiss it
Sheila Yoshikawa: Is it too much to say – well there will always be people that don’t get it, who it doesn’t appeal to?
Sheila Yoshikawa: I don’t see why it has to appeal to everyone
Kali Pizzaro: yes like facebook, twitter etc etc
ThinkererSelby Evans: books don’t appeal to everyone
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Truth
Grizzla: I agree, hotshot. Very few people are indifferent about it.
Sheila Yoshikawa: Yes, I don’t actually LIKE Twitter and I don’t think I ever will, although I do see its usefulness in certain ways and so I use it in a covering-bases kind of way, but for me it’s just no fun
Grizzla: smartphones, too. Some people love them, almost can’t live without them, while some even oppose them!
Zotarah Shepherd: As with a f2f classroom we need to appeal to students interests if we can. What do you think?
Sheila Yoshikawa: but I perfectly accept that for others Twitter IS fun
Grizzla: me too about Twitter
Luz Silvia: My concern is the presence of a certain “culture light” in educational institutions. This is what happens in South America. Little reading. It flies over the web reading. True abandonment of the book, lots of abbreviated information. Do not think it’s good for young people. Sorry for my English translation. Use the google translator.
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Grizzla @hotshot what does STILL seem different is teh hostility that those who don’t like it aim at those who do
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Weird Al occasionally tweets a payphone number when he is stuck and bored at an airport… one of these days I’ll catch him in that 30 minute window!
Grizzla: And it isn’t our goal for every student to love SL. The goal is to show them the kinds of things that are possible with SL. But if we don’t get them past the frustration point, the possibilities with VWs don’t sink in either.
Beth Ghostraven: There was an article in Forbes about virtual worlds that had some interesting comments: http://www.forbes.com/sites/dianemehta/2013/04/30/after-second-life-can-virtual-worlds-get-a-reboot/?commentId=comment_blogAndPostId/blog/comment/2619-23-15
Zotarah Shepherd: A chatroom was fun for me so a text based media can be fun too.
Beth Ghostraven: Sheila, that’s why I hesitate to tell people that I use SL
Wrenaria Antiesse: I didn’t like SL when I first tried it
Wrenaria Antiesse: :p
Wrenaria Antiesse: I didn’t like twitter either actually
Wrenaria Antiesse: but I do now
Zotarah Shepherd: Interesting thanks Beth
Kali Pizzaro: that was a really interesting point Luz
Lucio Pelazzi: Non-users of SL just don’t understand how immersive SL can be
Baird Barnard: What changed for you Wrenaria?
Grizzla: I didn’t like it at first either, Wren. I fiddled with it a bit over a week or two, thought it was too complicated and didn’t see the point of it.
Kali Pizzaro: do you think books are not been read as much in south America because of the net? is that what you meant?
Wrenaria Antiesse: my best friend in college kind of forced me into SL and I found it confusing…
Zotarah Shepherd: Any media that opens students to new information can be beneficial, but students need critical thinking skills to know what is valuable and how to use what they read.
Wrenaria Antiesse: but that was before there was a proper orientation
Wrenaria Antiesse: then i had to do an SL project for my job
Wrenaria Antiesse: so I made myself learn it better
Kali Pizzaro: My orientation was by meeting people
Grizzla: The official SL orientation is worse now than it ever was, IMHO.
Luz Silvia: gracias y sorry
Wrenaria Antiesse: but i think part of it was i felt against it at first
Wrenaria Antiesse: lack of understanding, preference for other tools
Baird Barnard: (sorry mic was on)
Wrenaria Antiesse: at the time I was very into IMVU
Beth Ghostraven: Draxtor Despres’ machinimas are an awesome way to show non-users what SL is like: http://www.youtube.com/user/draxtordespres?feature=watch
Wrenaria Antiesse: and SL felt ugly to me in comparison
Kali Pizzaro: now she turns into a cat…
Wrenaria Antiesse: haha
Kali Pizzaro: yes beth
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Kali @Luz I don’t know if this is connected to your point, but I do feel that some of the discourse about “digital natives” seems to be saying we should be making things bite sized and short etc. rather than taking teh view that people should come to education prepared to be educated, which means learning how to read carefully, understand complex ideas etc.
Wrenaria Antiesse: SL graphics have come a long way since then though
Zotarah Shepherd: Machinimas can be a good introduction to SL
Wrenaria Antiesse: kind of similar with twitter… I didn’t GET it… so I started with just following people for a long time, never tweeting
Lucio Pelazzi: I came into world at the old “Avatar Island” and it became my “home” and we all assisted new people learning the ropes
Wrenaria Antiesse: got to know the system
then it clicked
Wrenaria Antiesse: and now I’m on there daily
Kali Pizzaro: yes Sheila but is there such a thing
Wrenaria Antiesse: maybe its a comfort zone thing
Zotarah Shepherd: What are the best examples of data presentation?
Kali Pizzaro: as a digital native
Kali Pizzaro: yes who asked that again?
Sheila Yoshikawa: as what @Kali?
Kali Pizzaro: the data presentation
Luz Silvia: Tengo mis serias diferencias con el señor que invento esa palabra “nativos digitales”
Luz Silvia: nos trae grandes dolores de cabeza en las aulas
Beth Ghostraven: Lady Dragoness asked about data presentation
Luz Silvia: especialmente con los profesores ya que se escudan en ese termino para no hacer nada
Zotarah Shepherd: What did you mean by data presentation?
Sheila Yoshikawa: ah right – well no I don’t think there is, and there is increasing agreement, but the general discourse (inc. university admin etc.) still seem to hang on to the idea and use it to plan and chivy
Birdie Newcomb: I prefer data I can see. A build, a chart.
Luz Silvia: a ver si puedo expresarlo en ingles
Kali Pizzaro: I have my serious differences with the man who invented that word “digital natives”
Silvia Luz (silviabrugnoni) brings big headaches in classrooms
Kali Pizzaro: was that it Silvia
Zotarah Shepherd: My translator for SL no longer works, I am sorry to say
Lady Dragoness Koni: The Inquiry class I just finished, we were asked to make the data that we gathered for our report interesting
Lady Dragoness Koni: The instructor told me that is the future of data presentation
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Entertainment
Luz Silvia: El término “nativos digitales” vino a desacomodar la escuela
Sheila Yoshikawa: well I think data needs to be presented so that it is MEANINGFUL
Lady Dragoness Koni: that social scientists need to develop ways to liven up the data so that it has an impact
Sheila Yoshikawa: interesting is naturally a bonus
Kali Pizzaro: Lady like instagrams what is it you call them again?
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Infotainment?
Kali Pizzaro: mm
Sheila Yoshikawa: infographics?
Luz Silvia: ya que los profesores lo utilizan para justificar que no hacen nada con la tecnologia ya que ellos no nacieron en la era digital
Birdie Newcomb: also, data that actually is revealing. Most data is ho-hum
Sheila Yoshikawa: there are some really awful “infographics”
Kali Pizzaro: thats it
ThinkererSelby Evans: Data is nothing without meaning
Zotarah Shepherd: I don’t think we need to entertain students to make the material relevant and interesting.
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: USA Today comes to mind
Kali Pizzaro: yes and the source is sometimes not obv
Lady Dragoness Koni: yea, data that is not presented in an interesting way, however important, tends to be forgotten
Wrenaria Antiesse loves infographics…. but that’s coming from a graphic designer, lol
Lady Dragoness Koni: tying emotion into learning
Zotarah Shepherd: Good points
ThinkererSelby Evans: But the interest needs to be tied to the meaning
Kali Pizzaro: yes they can be great but…
Kali Pizzaro: because teachers use it to justify not doing anything with the technology since they were not born in the digital age
Lady Dragoness Koni: exactly
Kali Pizzaro: Siliva
Sheila Yoshikawa: I think it is – that it is presented in a way so that you can see what the main point is – that the way it is presented clarifies it and makes it easier to understand
Beth Ghostraven: Luz, wear the translator I gave you and set your language to Portuguese and Translate to: to English What you type in Nearby Chat will be translated.
Beth Ghostraven: Luz, usar o tradutor que eu te dei e definir o idioma para o Português e Traduzir para: para inglês o que você digita no chat Perto será traduzido.
Kali Pizzaro: said above
Lady Dragoness Koni: well we are social scientists in training
Lady Dragoness Koni: so our audience would be educators as a rule
Kali Pizzaro: yes that is important
Sheila Yoshikawa: the trouble with a lot of the infographics is that it is visual but it is if anything MORE difficult to tell what the main point or meaning is
Kali Pizzaro: who is the audience
Zotarah Shepherd: Even in middle school I resented when teachers ran out of material and just told jokes. They were wasting my time. Would you say how we teach is just as important as what we teach and what media we use?
Lady Dragoness Koni: it would have to be well done, of course
Kali Pizzaro: there are many ways and each may require a different approach
Kali Pizzaro: when to use a bar chart
Kali Pizzaro: when to use a pie etc etc
or a 3D representation like Wizard
Kali Pizzaro: work
Oronoque Westland: a bad infographics is like a powerpoint overloaded with animations
Lady Dragoness Koni: here is a demo http://blip.tv/itrc/educ-demo-movie-in-second-life-6577936
Lucio Pelazzi: CNN Headline News comes to mind. Too much going on at the same time can overwhelm
Lady Dragoness Koni: presenting data in a visually interesting way
Birdie Newcomb: Data connects when it comes from an interesting question.
Lady Dragoness Koni: My instructor feels it is vital
Birdie Newcomb: Where the answer is not obvious
Lucio Pelazzi: Yes, it creates a stimulus to learn MORE
Sheila Yoshikawa: I am trying to find the website of Edward Tufte who is my all time favourite guru on presenting information meaningfully (but Firefox is freezing grr)
Zotarah Shepherd: We consider the style of learning too. Visuals work best for visual learners, right?
ThinkererSelby Evans: Yes — If I don’t have a question I don’t need data
Zotarah Shepherd: Ok we have 15 minutes.
Wrenaria Antiesse: Sheila: http://www.edwardtufte.com/
Kali Pizzaro: mmm another controversial point – learning theories
Sheila Yoshikawa: thanks!
Wrenaria Antiesse: (I’ve met him btw…)
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Tufte was born in KC, MO (I’m from that area)
Kali Pizzaro: ohhhh
Lady Dragoness Koni: ~**smiles**~
Birdie Newcomb: the data I watch, the publishing industry, is interesting as it changes: how many read ebooks rather than printed books, or ereaders vs. iPads. Trends matter.
Sheila Yoshikawa: wow wrenaria
Wrenaria Antiesse: he happened to be installing a new show in his NYC studio while i was wandering through it
Wrenaria Antiesse: lol
Kali Pizzaro: as you do lol
Wrenaria Antiesse: <–lives in oregon, so just dumb good luck
Wrenaria Antiesse: sorry, didn’t mean to derail things here
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Has anyone been following Philip Rosedale’s High Fidelity venture?
Birdie Newcomb: what’s that?
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Voxel based Virtual World
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: http://highfidelity.io/
Sheila Yoshikawa: I was just pondering how in all these areas – communication of meaning & ideas, education )etc) although some things change, there are new opportunities etc., some basic principles and theories and so forth remain valid and important. Problem is working out which ones those are – so as not to throw them out with the things that ARE changed
Kali Pizzaro: a bit
Sheila Yoshikawa: sorry rather trite, that
Kali Pizzaro: yes new theories and pedagogy coming up now
Kali Pizzaro: some really interesting ideas
Lady Dragoness Koni: I have signed up for the news on that
Kali Pizzaro: remember to take pics folks
Beth Ghostraven: I have; is there anyone who objects to their avi being shown on the VWER transcript for this meeting?
Zotarah Shepherd: 3D Theoretical builds help students understand the meaning sometimes. Like Thursday Xu did Blooms Taxonomy, I did Gardener’s Multiple Intelligences
Lady Dragoness Koni: does anyone know how to deactivate the friends log on log off notices?
Lady Dragoness Koni: in Singularity
ThinkererSelby Evans: I need a name and description of this event to list in my continuing events blog page
Beth Ghostraven: probably in your Preferences
Lady Dragoness Koni: the immersive education Initiative has a great video series on education in the virtual
Zotarah Shepherd: Many of the advanced options are not available in newer viewers (One reason why I don’t use them)
Beth Ghostraven: 2013-05-02 VWER Open Forum
Lady Dragoness Koni: thanks
Kali Pizzaro: follow us on facebook or google+
Grizzla: Zo, I have the impression you won’t be able to use the older viewers much longer
Zotarah Shepherd: Anyone have something else to add?
ThinkererSelby Evans: generic name — is it always open forum?
Kali Pizzaro: thanks Zo do you have a SLurl to the blooms taxonomy and your build?
Beth Ghostraven: no, sometimes we have a theme
Zotarah Shepherd: Yes I have heard that too Grizzla
Kali Pizzaro: this is the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable
Beth Ghostraven: thank you Kali
Kali Pizzaro: www.vwer.org
Zotarah Shepherd: Thursday keeps moving it so I’d have to check and mine is just in my inventory now sorry.
ThinkererSelby Evans: thanks — that works
Zotarah Shepherd: You can IM him too
Zotarah Shepherd: 4 minutes left.
ThinkererSelby Evans: good — thanks
Kali Pizzaro: what about Google glass
Zotarah Shepherd: What is planned for next week?
Oronoque Westland: this is bloom
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Wrenaria Antiesse: haha
Kali Pizzaro: oro has it on
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: @ORo, worlds largest hat!
Sheila Yoshikawa: lol, looks good on you
Baird Barnard: ^^
Oronoque Westland: no rights to build so had to wear
Lady Dragoness Koni: cool, can that be shared?
Kali Pizzaro: ok folks we are finishing up for this week I want to thank Zo for doing a great job
Beth Ghostraven: hey, I missed Oro’s hat!
Kali Pizzaro: that it you are in now!
Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks Kali.
Kali Pizzaro: lol
Sheila Yoshikawa: thanks Zo and Kali
Lady Dragoness Koni: oh cool thanks!
Birdie Newcomb: tx Zo
Wrenaria Antiesse: Kali – not sure what i think of Glass yet…. could be an interesting topic to explore for a roundtable session sometime?
Kali Pizzaro: yes Wren
Kali Pizzaro: defo
Zotarah Shepherd: You’re welcome everyone.
Whatever the topic it is good to know ahead of time so we can read up on it before the meeting.
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: I heard some dev glasses went up for sale third party – Google warned they would remotely deactivate them…
Kali Pizzaro: ok so next week
Wrenaria Antiesse: huh interesting
Lady Dragoness Koni: hehe
Lady Dragoness Koni: funny
Zotarah Shepherd: Thank you everyone. this was a fascinating discussion.
Sheila Yoshikawa: bye for now!
Lady Dragoness Koni: yes thanks everyone!
Wrenaria Antiesse: well this has been fun… hopefully i can make it back again for the term ends…. if not, see you all in June, lol
Kali Pizzaro: we are in next door for a one-on-one interview with Dr Mark Childs where he will be talking about all about Presence
Zotarah Shepherd: If you have ideas for future topics please let us know.
Kali Pizzaro: I will be interviewing Mark
Lady Dragoness Koni: when, next thurs?
Beth Ghostraven: yes
Lady Dragoness Koni: ok
Kali Pizzaro: and I will be sending out a google moderator so you can post and vote on questions
Zotarah Shepherd: Wow Kali that sounds great.
Kali Pizzaro: yes voice with transcribers
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: Same Bat Channel same Bat Time
Kali Pizzaro: only me using voice and the guest
Lady Dragoness Koni: ahh
Beth Ghostraven: but next door to the same Bat PLace
ʇoɥsʇoɥ oɯɔn: hehehe
Lady Dragoness Koni: haha
Kali Pizzaro: Lady join us on facebook or google+ to get the messages
Zotarah Shepherd admires transcribers. Lightning fingers and sharp minds
Lady Dragoness Koni: ok
Kali Pizzaro: thanks all
Kali Pizzaro: haste ye back
Julia Tiraxibar: thank you..
Beth Ghostraven: Thanks, Kali!
Zotarah Shepherd: You are welcome to keep discussing but officially we are done for this week.
Kali Pizzaro: so one last thanks to Zo
Kali Pizzaro: wooooo
ThinkererSelby Evans: bye all
Kali Pizzaro: yes transcript stopped