November 19, 2015: For the Love of Learning – How Do Virtual Worlds Facilitate This for You?

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Transcript of the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable: November 19, 2015

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Topic: For the Love of Learning – How Do Virtual Worlds Facilitate This for You?

Photos by Beth Ghostraven

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Iggy — do any of your students or groups of students write blogs?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Thinkerer, not any longer. I’ve gone old school in classes: paper journals, thesis driven essays on paper

Wisdomseeker (lissena): why?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Because they are losing the ability for critical sustained discourse

Wisdomseeker (lissena): interesting

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): our devices discourage it, as well as deep reading, so old-school for the immediate future.

Wisdomseeker (lissena): and you think it is the devices? You see a difference when you go old school?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Me and Sherry Turkle and any number of theorists. It’s not the hardware but the habits encouraged by it. Students now LOVE the paper journals I give them and collect 🙂

Marly (marly.milena): What goes around comes around

Beth Ghostraven: can you read their handwriting, Iggy?

Wisdomseeker (lissena): there is some thought that using muscle connects better to the brain

Kali Pizzaro: Hi everyone, and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable. We meet Thursday 11:30am SLT for an hour. 7:30pm In UK, 2:30pm est VWER is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education. This is a public meeting, so we will be keeping and publishing a transcript. The transcripts can be found at Please join the VWER group here in SL. If you are on Facebook, or Google+ please join our group there. Also find and post pictures to our Flickr group, facebook or Google+ and follow us on Twitter @VWER.

Kali Pizzaro: This week’s theme is For the love of learning – how do VWs facilitate this for you? – let’s start as we usually do and introduce ourselves  I’m Evelyn McElhinney, RN, Lecturer, Glasgow Caledonian University, VWER Director

Marly (marly.milena): Niela Miller, M.S. Ed is a multi-artist, humanistic psychologist, educator, trainer, coach, & group facilitator in and out of SL.  She has two groups offering programs in SL—Octagon:Creative Exploration and (with Liss) Adventures in Lifelong Learning.

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Selby Evans, Blogger, Teaching creativity at the university, Ken Robinson

Kali Pizzaro: Thinkerer, that is us

Beth Ghostraven: Beth Ghostraven, middle school teacher-librarian in RL and owner of the Book and Tankard Pub in Victoria City, Caledon in SL; unofficial liaison between education groups in SL. For information on events for the educational groups that I work with, see the ISTE VEN Massive Open Online Calendar at ; Twitter: @booklady9

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Wisdomseeker (lissena): Lynne Berrett, MA, MSW, Director of Whole Brain Health on Inspiration Island

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Joe Essid, University of Richmond English & Writing Center. Taught with SL from 2007-2013. These days I am writing science fiction and teaching a new course about it.

Birdie Newcomb: Birdie Newborn, college publisher

Wisdomseeker (lissena): Kali, so nice to see you back!

Kali Pizzaro: thank you

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): James Lloyd, online learning developer at university of wisconsin in madison

Kali Pizzaro: So This weeks theme is For the love of learning – how does VWs facilitate this for you?

Kali Pizzaro: who wants to kick us off and please give us an example 🙂 and tell us what difference if any the learning in VWs has made to your physical world life

Beth Ghostraven: it’s made me tireder, lol

Wisdomseeker (lissena): where to start….

Kali Pizzaro: 🙂

Wisdomseeker (lissena): I have been exploring a whole new area of knowledge and of my personality because of SL

Kali Pizzaro: How so Liss, can you explain further?

Wisdomseeker (lissena): Right now I am helping Letty Luckstone with her study of online learning, and in the process creating a continuing education course about brain health that I would like to get accredited

Wisdomseeker (lissena): People in SL have been so helpful with that; I got over 200 responses to my survey

Beth Ghostraven: Liss, I’m working on that too, but I haven’t started yet

Kali Pizzaro: fantastic Liss

Marly (marly.milena): When I came to SL in 2007, I was an utter technophobe.  Little by little, I have become less afraid of dealing with tech input

Beth Ghostraven: has that opened up new opportunities for you, Marly?

Marly (marly.milena): I learn something practically every time I come in

Kali Pizzaro: great Marly

Marly (marly.milena): Re new ops, the main thing for me has been having support (mostly from an admin assistant) who can show me how to do something if I need to do it or he does it for me but I learn by watching

Beth Ghostraven: Marly, that’s great!

Marly (marly.milena): I also learn by teaching every time I offer a new program. I may have some idea in my head about how something will go and then someone does it differently and I have an AHA moment!

Kali Pizzaro: nods

Marly (marly.milena): I am less afraid of <things going wrong> with equipment and can often find the solution which I couldn’t do before

Kali Pizzaro: Great Marly

Marly (marly.milena): I am talking about physical things ….

Kali Pizzaro: some entrance Darkjade 😉

Darkejade Tempest (darkejade): hi !! omg im on the table XD hello all

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): My last use of the House of Usher was enjoyable for the kids, despite lag and some confusion. The evals were quite positive.

Beth Ghostraven: I’ve been expanding my abilities to publicize events, which actually started when I was in high school

Kali Pizzaro: so learning Comms (communication strategies) Beth

Beth Ghostraven: yes Kali

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Virtual worlds facilitate playing–creativity.   You have to learn if you are going to be creative.  If you learn computer programming in college, you learn it to pass a course.  If you learn scripting in SL, you learn it because you want to do something with it.

Kali Pizzaro: Great Thinkerer so you are motivated to learn? So all do you think it has expanded your knowledge that you take into other areas of your life?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @Thinkerer, that’s the promise: kinesthetic learning.

Beth Ghostraven: that’s key, Thinkerer – you learn it because YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT–that’s what’s lacking for students today, mostly

Kali Pizzaro: I suppose I mean how does it influence or transfer to your physical world life

Wisdomseeker (lissena): I have become a proselytizer, lol

Kali Pizzaro: so your problem solving improved or just your confidence to try?

Birdie Newcomb: That’s what I had been hoping would happen, with the possibilities in SL beyond reality.

Beth Ghostraven: Kali, I think those are linked

Kali Pizzaro: sure :0 I am just not making that assumption 😉

Wisdomseeker (lissena): we are talking about transfer?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I’m more of a tinkerer now IRL partly because of building in SL. In the classroom that means being a little more fearless about using Google’s rich capacity to share content.

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Actually I learned FORTRAN in 1962.  On my own,  there were no classes.  I wanted to do something with it.

Birdie Newcomb: I’m book-based, but a few places and personalities have linked to literature — Shakespeare plays, Dante’s inferno, Usher, other builds

Marly (marly.milena) whispers: My Avatar has also inspired me to lose weight and I have slowly dropped ten pounds and kept it off

Kali Pizzaro: woo that is really interesting Marly – why is that

Wisdomseeker (lissena): you can sell SL with that, Marly!

Beth Ghostraven: oh nice! I think there have been studies on that, Marly

Marly (marly.milena): Hahaha

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I don’t know that my confidence improved. (I was always arrogant)

Beth Ghostraven: hahahaha thinkerer–you hide it well

Kali Pizzaro: yes a number of studies and something I found in my phd

Birdie Newcomb: The possibility of bumping into people with other languages, or half a world away such as Glasgow, seems to open doors.

Kali Pizzaro: lol

Kali Pizzaro: ye dinnae wan a meet them

Wisdomseeker (lissena): certainly friendships here can extend beyond SL

Kali Pizzaro: nods

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): yes

Birdie Newcomb: lol

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): you bet!

Kali Pizzaro: so do you learn alone or do you do it with others? Does SL facilitate that?

Marly (marly.milena): There is also a level of explicit civility here that is not as evident in FL  People seem to learn to say please, thank you, etc much more often here

Kali Pizzaro: sorry collaboration or do you like to learn alone

Wisdomseeker (lissena): Collaboration is much easier here, I find

Marly (marly.milena): I am certainly more conscious of this in myself

Birdie Newcomb: And innovative education, such as Kip Yellowjacket, or John Jamison (can’t remember his SL name)

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I learn alone, as is common in the Humanities, then collaborate when the writing and teaching begin 🙂

Kali Pizzaro: 🙂

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): One person I met in SL is going to be in class in person next semester to teach her first major SF publication, a novel from Tor, so that’s one way it influences my RL work

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): If i want help with a script, I can find people who know more than I do about LSL.  What are my chances in the old folks home where I live?

Kali Pizzaro: absolutely Thinkerer

Beth Ghostraven: Iggy, who’s that? I love Tor books

Wisdomseeker (lissena): wow, Iggy!

Marly (marly.milena): It is easier to try new programs here and benefit from the learning acquired than it is to launch new programs out there

Kali Pizzaro: nods

Birdie Newcomb: Yes, when I start a big project, helpers seem to come out of the woodwork, for a chance to participate

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia) grins and sits on hands about RL identity of the author 🙂

Beth Ghostraven: who is it in SL?

Kali Pizzaro: so how do you find these places or people to learn from – what strategies do you use?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): “Doo de doo lah lah lah.” What, Beth?

Wisdomseeker (lissena): same as outside–word of mouth

Beth Ghostraven rolls her eyes and gives up

Birdie Newcomb: sometimes a call for help..

Kali Pizzaro: through networks?

Beth Ghostraven: reading profiles leads me to people sometimes

Marly (marly.milena): I make it my business to arrange for one-on-one chats with people who show up at my programs or speak up with allied interests at meetings I attend

Kali Pizzaro: know or searched?

Wisdomseeker (lissena): Beth got me a lot more survey responses–I nominate Beth

Birdie Newcomb: And in SL, it seems to help a teacher to have an assistant guide for SL specific problems, such as moving or building

Kali Pizzaro: So Marly the personal touch 🙂

Kali Pizzaro: yes Birdie

Marly (marly.milena): Yes, and you can go more in-depth in a conversation

Kali Pizzaro: nods

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I find people who know by paying attention to people who talk — mostly in Google communities and Kitely forums

Kali Pizzaro: so you use a number of VW and SM [social media] Thinkerer

Beth Ghostraven: what? you nominate me for what, Liss?

Kali Pizzaro: then contact in here?

Wisdomseeker (lissena): a great way to make contacts here @Beth

Marly (marly.milena): I am perpetually looking for collaborators and people who enjoy creating as much as I do

Beth Ghostraven: aww, thanks!

Wisdomseeker (lissena): it’s true

Beth Ghostraven: I was afraid I was getting another job O.O

Beth Ghostraven: lol

Birdie Newcomb: And SL has its own innovations, freely shared, such as this table we’re sitting at, or the SpeakEasy

Wisdomseeker (lissena): yes Birdie, very appealing

Kali Pizzaro: yes so resources – social, information, objects etc?

Kali Pizzaro: mainly through networks or do you stumble upon?

Birdie Newcomb: or the extensions that move the next group just far enough away so that the conversations don’t overlap

Marly (marly.milena): But here’s the thing, some people (like me and like Liss) are natural innovators, instigators, pro-active; others are better first mates; once you outline a project to them, they will jump in to help. We need all sorts for good learning to take place

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I use SL and Hypergrid — Google lets people use their SL names, so I can find them in here.  But I can also get help at Builders Brewery  here

Kali Pizzaro: nods

Marly (marly.milena): innovators (hand-challenged today)

Beth Ghostraven: true, Marly

Beth Ghostraven: I’m amazed that you can type at all, Marly–thank you!

Kali Pizzaro: so Marly like any group some leaders some happy to take direction or work as part of the team

Birdie Newcomb: the “groups” are very handy to keep a class together

Wisdomseeker (lissena): yes, groups are very important I would say

Beth Ghostraven: you also can use Contact Sets, at least in Firestorm, to group people together

Kali Pizzaro: we are talking about the love of learning and how VWs facilitate it

Marly (marly.milena): Yes, Kali.  Big learning for me; I used to get really frustrated at why more people weren’t making things happen, reaching out of their own accord…now I am clearer about that

Kali Pizzaro: nods Marly like many community of practice

Birdie Newcomb: One of the SL skills to learn is how to keep track of several conversations simultaneously (such as here)

Wisdomseeker (lissena): Don’t you find that many many people who come into vws and stay are natural lifelong learners?

Kali Pizzaro: yes Birdie so learning these skills and etiquette important

Kali Pizzaro: multi – tasking?

Marly (marly.milena): Sometimes, I imagine an IM screen that branches out to accommodate different discussion strings!

Kali Pizzaro: Liss I do wonder if they have a love for learning – or maybe can’t access in other ways – but yes there may be some truth in that

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I  think the main attraction of virtual worlds is to people who have never lost or are recovering their natural, childish creativity

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Hamlet Au of New World Notes and I fussed about that Thinkerer. We need to provide such pundits and outsiders to edu in VWs hard data about claims such as VWs encouraging lifelong learning.

Birdie Newcomb: Another area that SL is great for, is social learning: inhabiting a short avatar, or a dragon or a black person to interact with others

Birdie Newcomb: you learn about yourself and others that you can’t get from books

Birdie Newcomb: or change gender

Kali Pizzaro: Yes Birdie, interestingly Nick Yee et al new tool about how gamers and users of VW use different platforms – SL was all about creativity and community

Kali Pizzaro: yes so perspective taking Birdie 🙂

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): Empathy

Wisdomseeker (lissena): I don’t separate creativity from learning myself

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Creative collaboration– that is my theme

Beth Ghostraven: The candle is because I’m thankful for all of you *smiles*

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Birdie Newcomb: However, a lot of the “learning” that SL offers doesn’t really fit the classroom framework

Marly (marly.milena): Has anyone done an exercise here like the blue eye-brown eye one on racism?

Birdie Newcomb: It takes people to try new things

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I am sympathetic to these claims, but we do need supporting evidence. I’m just not the sort of educator who does that type of research. Tom Boellstorff did, however.

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): You can’t create something new without learning something new.  But that may not fit the concept of formal learning.

Kali Pizzaro: Marly, Yee and Bailenson did some research hold taller avatars were more aggressive in task in the physical world after interacting in the VW

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer) is not very clear on the state of formal learning in the light of the internets

Wisdomseeker (lissena): We are not talking about classroom learning here, are we?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Formal learning = curricular guidelines, assessment? In our First-year seminars, for instance, each student must complete 5000 words of analytical academic prose.

Kali Pizzaro: no

Beth Ghostraven: Birdie, interestingly, I was at a presentation recently where someone felt that she was being slighted because of her Tiny avatar

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): Or sit in a classroom chair for a number of hours

Kali Pizzaro: I am meaning the learning you deem you acquire in SL or VWs

Wisdomseeker (lissena): because lifelong learning is a very broad area

Kali Pizzaro: so it may be but not necessarily a formal course

Wisdomseeker (lissena): an attitude

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): Lifelong learning IS the love of learning I think

Kali Pizzaro: you got me James

Marly (marly.milena): I did a session once where Avatars radically changed their appearance.  It caused a lot of discomfort!

Wisdomseeker (lissena): nice, James!

Beth Ghostraven: oh, Marly, I’d be really interested in that!

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): I think we were mentioning formal learning as a point of comparison

Birdie Newcomb: SL does offer communities — for Tinies, for Gor, techies, etc.

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I am mainly talking about academics.  For many years I have been pointing out that “academic”  is often used to mean “irrelevant”

Kali Pizzaro: lol

Marly (marly.milena): Think about how much you tend to stick to a particular self-presentation here, particularly in human form, and what that does for you

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): got it thinkerer

Birdie Newcomb: Well, that’s academic 🙂

Kali Pizzaro: yes Marly the virtual self

Birdie Newcomb: Some teaching tools have to be brought into SL, such as hand-raising, or order of speaking

Marly (marly.milena): And if you depart from that persona, it produces real discomfort,,,but you certainly can learn from it!

Wisdomseeker (lissena): many people do that by creating alts perhaps, Marly

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): A concept I am deep in right now is agency and in SL I think ‘camming’ is the expression of agency.

Marly (marly.milena): I have a male alt but I have rarely used it

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I felt my students learned a lot from changing race or gender for a week. They noted as much in their write-ups.

Kali Pizzaro: Marly –

Wisdomseeker (lissena): how so, James?

Birdie Newcomb: Some make formal clothes that might be suitable for teachers — depending on the class

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): What makes VW unique is the step away from video – where the learner ‘looks’ rather than watches.

Kali Pizzaro:

Birdie Newcomb: But I’ve been taught by a dragon.

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): sorry – I strayed from identity

Wisdomseeker (lissena): so, active looking?

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): well, agency is the learning experience of affecting the environment.

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I have performed stage comedy in several other avatars–male and female.  The audience knows who is performing.

Kali Pizzaro: 🙂

Kali Pizzaro: excellent

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): great observation thinkerer

Beth Ghostraven: Are you Lauren, Thinkerer?

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): no — Lauren is another person performing stage comedy

Beth Ghostraven: ok, just wondering :o)

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): I agree with what you mentioned Selby, because in my research my students and fellow teachers see it as a video game. this is where I can make a reflection. which is the virtual world. the virtual world is a MMORPG, or Sl, or Opensim or any other platform … in my research and realized that the virtual world is a co-text that exceeds the above. because what I say, for the simple fact that the platforms perish and are transformed, the user will always be learning new ways to interact, no matter how the user interprets a virtual world, but who builds and as a guide allows Users to interact in a didactic way. the virtual world can be what humans want on your imagination always understanding the limits of technology.

Birdie Newcomb: teaching doesn’t seem to affect Path’s appearance

Kali Pizzaro: thanks Ecoonis…… So do any of you have a favorite place to learn? or multiple places and if so why are they attractive?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): One of my very pedagogically conservative students was troubled by my less than professional look in SL.

Kali Pizzaro: what makes you keep going back?

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): We both appreciate the opportunity to perform — we could not get an audience in the old (rl) world

Birdie Newcomb: Or was it your SL name?

Kali Pizzaro: So do any of you have a favorite place to learn? or multiple places and if so why are they attractive? what makes you keep going back?

Wisdomseeker (lissena): I gather that in the beginning universities came in and built…university buildings…has that changed?

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): We are just a right-click away from knowing the truth!

Marly (marly.milena): I love my own sim, Inspiration Island, because there are always new and different ops for learning and creating and because we have formed a community of people all passionate about learning self-expression and creative projects

Kali Pizzaro: nods so the interaction the knowledge that something will always be happening?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): A lot of unis departed in 2011, after the tier-discounts were dropped. They’ve not returned since the discounts reappeared. The IT folks here moved on to other things. The watchwords remain mobile and cloud around here.

Marly (marly.milena): Liss and Tooyaa have done a great job laying out the possibilities

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): agree @ iggy

Beth Ghostraven: I think my favorite place to learn is Caledon Oxbridge University – people on hand to help newcomers, interesting classes, and the ambience of Caledon

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Wisdomseeker (lissena): I mean…do newer learning places try to be more innovative?

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I use the internet to learn — starting with Google search

Marly (marly.milena): We support each other in trying new things

Kali Pizzaro: sorry can i keep it about what you find interesting etc – not really talking uni etc here tonight 🙂

LoCE Morpork (loce99ch8.morpork): San Jose State U. School of Librarianship is still alive and well.

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): @Kali, I learn more around this table than anywhere else. I did some pirate roleplaying here and that was fun. It did teach me something about good design. Those sims were well made.

Kali Pizzaro: thanks @Iggy

Beth Ghostraven: SJSU is another good place to learn, for me

Kali Pizzaro: I think it depends on what you are teaching or want to learn @Liss

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): I think I learn from the variety of places – the ways different builds approach a similar goal

Wisdomseeker (lissena): I think groups more than places have been favorite places for me, like ISTE and VWER and NPC and VWBPE

Kali Pizzaro: thanks @Liss

LoCE Morpork (loce99ch8.morpork): Their students research a time period, then build it, then present what they have learned.

Kali Pizzaro: nice

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Ha, Kali, what one finds interesting does not include universities?   I agree.

Kali Pizzaro: so the people

Kali Pizzaro: Thanks @Thinkerer you had enough of them 😉

Beth Ghostraven: I agree, it’s more the groups/people than the places

Marly (marly.milena): The conferences always reveal new possibilities and potential colleagues

Wisdomseeker (lissena): regular weekly meetings forge bonds

Beth Ghostraven: the OpenSim Community Conference is coming up soon, Marly–Dec. 5

Birdie Newcomb: I learn a lot at the annual VWBPE conferences and Burning Life

Kali Pizzaro: Agree Liss one of the reasons we try not to miss a week

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): I might mention that they are two different places that I like to be in virtual worlds.They are personal and they are to teach. In the personal I like places offering the user a role of feeling that one is exploring places that could be only in dreams. And in regard to education, in places that allow teachers to have the largest digital teaching resources for tranformarlos what the thematic content requires. a place where the art and the teaching strategy is an easy to use for teachers and students.

Marly (marly.milena): Yes, Beth, I have the info but will just go as a learner/observer this time since I am really new to Open Sim and don’t even completely understand it yet.

Kali Pizzaro: great folks

Kali Pizzaro: 🙂

Beth Ghostraven: the conference is a good place to start, Marly, lots of helpful people

Wisdomseeker (lissena): LEA is always interesting too

Kali Pizzaro: yeah i might try to get to that too

Wisdomseeker (lissena): possibilities

Kali Pizzaro: So for me it is the people but the environment is important and so places too

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I miss Burning Life, Birdie. My best times here, ever. Students went one year.

Wisdomseeker (lissena): what environments draw you, Kali?

Marly (marly.milena): Some years ago, I started a women’s group here which was wonderful while it lasted; we learned so much from each other, but it became too difficult to schedule a regular time everyone could make.  Scheduling is a bad dream

Kali Pizzaro: Liss – I like exploring places with interactive – health and music but not had much chance recently

Beth Ghostraven: Hi Grizz!

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Grizzla!

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid) sneaks in, better late than never

Kali Pizzaro: Hi grizz we are talking places or types of learning you enjoy or are facilitated in VWs

Beth Ghostraven: I’m missing the following chat logs. Could you check and see if you have them?

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ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Here is a post I wrote about what you can learn in virtual worlds:

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Thursday, September 17, 2015

2013 EDU: TKR: Life’s Little Lessons From Virtual Worlds

Kali Pizzaro: brill Thinkerer thank you

Marly (marly.milena): BTW, if you haven’t been to one of my Collaborative Sculpture & Storytelling sessions, I am doing one today at 1pm SL

Kali Pizzaro: ok

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): the best places to teach in virtual worlds are the ones who have the best digital resources and to give all permits teachers to explore their own potential. and that everything is easy to use and not complex. (I do not ask much lol)

Kali Pizzaro: 🙂 ok 3 mins what do you offer others to learn?

Kali Pizzaro: bit rushed but throw in something 🙂

Beth Ghostraven: Here’s the website for the OSCC conference, which we’ll discuss here on Dec. 3:

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): ah — good — thanks for telling me

Wisdomseeker (lissena): me too, Selby

Marly (marly.milena): Symbolic Modeling is my unique contribution to SL learning

Kali Pizzaro: nods @Marly

Marly (marly.milena): It also teaches people to pay close attention to each other’s contributions and build on them (literally!)

Kali Pizzaro: ok maybe we should keep that last Q for another time 🙂

Wisdomseeker (lissena): the collaborative sculpture is a lot of fun–I can personally attest to that

Kali Pizzaro: 🙂 ok…………………………………. so we have a holiday in the US of A coming up, so we may be light next week, but we will be here

Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): yes – gobble gobble

LoCE Morpork (loce99ch8.morpork): Interesting conversation, as usual.  Bye for now.

Kali Pizzaro: now date for the diary…………….

Kali Pizzaro: HOLIDAY PARTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 17th December – get yer glad rags on for the VWER holiday party

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): YASSSS I have missed that party but will return

Wisdomseeker (lissena): great party last year!

Beth Ghostraven: ok great! Iggy, are you bringing Pappy’s special brew?

Kali Pizzaro: we might even have a wee surprise up our sleeve–DJ and maybe a special live singer…………….. anyway keep the date free

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): Pappy is now in prison again,so you’ll have to put up with me

Beth Ghostraven snorts

Kali Pizzaro: phew

Beth Ghostraven: lol

Beth Ghostraven: you don’t know where his hooch is stashed?

Iggy (ignatius.onomatopoeia): I drank it all

Beth Ghostraven: hahahaha

Wisdomseeker (lissena): lol

Beth Ghostraven cries

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): Alcohol has such a reduced effect on me inworld

James Atlloud (lloud.laffer): hic

Beth Ghostraven: haha

Kali Pizzaro: ok so thanks so much folks for tonight


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