March 17, 2016: Recap of the VWBPE Conference

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Transcript of the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable: March 17, 2016

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Topic: Recap of the VWBPE Conference

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Sheila Yoshikawa: Hi everyone, and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable. We meet Thursday 11:30am SLT for an hour. 7:30pm In UK, 2:30pm EST. VWER is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education in virtual worlds. This is a public meeting, so we will be keeping and publishing a transcript. The transcripts can be found at The VWER continues to develop a community of educators from around the world. Please join the VWER group here in SL. If you are on Facebook, or Google+ please join our group there. Also find and post pictures to our Flickr group and follow us on Twitter @VWER. When you blog or tweet, please remember to include the tag #vwer. you can catch up on our tweetchat at #vwer.

Sheila Yoshikawa: I am moderating today. This week’s Theme is: How was it for you? Reflecting on VWBPE.

Sheila Yoshikawa: Let’s start as we normally do and introduce ourselves. As usual we will be in text chat for the whole session.

Sheila Yoshikawa: I teach and research in the Information School, University of Sheffield

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): I am christian Angel. study a PhD in Mexico. my research is related virtual worlds for educational purposes.

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): Andrew Oleksiuk, artist, educator and Managing Creative Director, Sense-Net Media, Chicago, USA

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Selby Evans, blogger,  9th Annual Virtual Worlds Best Practices in Education 2016 poster sessions (2)

Beth Ghostraven: Beth Ghostraven, middle school teacher-librarian in RL and owner of the Book and Tankard Pub in Victoria City, Caledon in SL; Communications Chair for the VWBPE Conference; unofficial liaison between education groups in SL. For information on events for the educational groups that I work with, see the ISTE VEN Massive Open Online Calendar at  ; Twitter: @booklady9

I’ll be taking photos to publish with the transcript; if you have any objection, please IM me.

Marly (marly.milena): Niela Miller, M.S. Ed. is a multi-artist, Gestalt therapist ,educator, trainer, coach, & group facilitator in and out of SL.  She has two groups offering programs on Inspiration Island in SL—Octagon:Creative Exploration and Adventures in Lifelong Learning (with Wisdomseeker Lissena). See this recent article about her:

Sheila Yoshikawa: anyone else willing to say something about themselves?: 😉 If not I will plunge into the topic for today. Perhaps we could start with – what were your highlights of the VWBPE conference? Let us start with the positive, eh–and you are allowed to talk about your own sessions 😉

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): It excited me a lot to learn from people with a lot of knowledge in the field of virtual worlds.

Beth Ghostraven: watching my friend Spiff Whitfield receive the Thinkerer Award!

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Of course, there was the panel I was in on the Hypergrid

Arianne (ariannejp): a week ago , we had presentation of CEO of Linden , questions mainly concerned to SANSAR , so we need to know about SANSAR , there can we try 3D VR?

Sheila Yoshikawa: great highlights!

Marly (marly.milena): The panels were great (especially mine. LOL), Learned a lot from having a group of people talking about some area or other

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): realizing how many people I’ve met in the community from VWBPE

Beth Ghostraven: In case anyone missed part of the conference, like I did, recordings of many of the sessions are available here:

Sheila Yoshikawa: useful Beth, thanks

Marly (marly.milena): Yes, my panel is on YouTube, called Innovations in Teaching/Learning….

anthrop: Marly can you provide a link please?

Beth Ghostraven: anthrop, I think this is Marly’s session:

Sheila Yoshikawa: thanks again Beth

anthrop: tyvm

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Christian was there one session that stood out for you? when you you particularly learnt?

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): @sheila what I learned is to use the strategy Gamification to give a dynamic to teaching practical sense.

Lee (leezahsmiles): I do not even think that ten to fifteen years ago, Virtual Worlds would have been thought of as “a field” …

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): oh gosh no.  I started talking about it four years after I wanted to do something with it – that was in 2005 and my colleagues asked “what is that?  Dungeons and Dragons?  Chat rooms (and not in a good way)”

Sheila Yoshikawa: Yes, now there are quite a lot of research studies, numerous PhD studies on virtual worlds

Lee (leezahsmiles): You are right Ghaelen!

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I’m so glad to see it becoming mainstream I finally feel my images about my virtual projects can be posted to my RL facebook page…now people understand it has educational potential

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): keep that up, Ghaelen, i just posted a photo of us to FB. VWs needs more Web 2.0 exposure

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Selby did any new points emerge about hypergrid and hypergriddding?

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): the main points about HG is that it is growing as a community.  Lots of interaction across grids

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Selby yes that struck me, it did actually jolt me a little to think – yes I SHOULD be engaging more with this

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis):  yes @sheila jejeje a lot PHD

Arianne (ariannejp): i did not join each sections, does anybody talk about cost of viewers for student?

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Arianne not specifically in the sessions I was in, but it is often a theme….

Lee (leezahsmiles): I mentioned to a local nonprofit that SL could be used to hold escape planning workshops for the women who are in domestic violence since they are often not allowed to leave the house…  and the nonprofit directors just could not conceptualize what I was trying to introduce…

Beth Ghostraven: Lee, that makes me think of the fire readiness training that the U of Idaho has, displayed in their exhibit

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): oh Lee, I’ve run into that a lot until about a year ago

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Lee sounds very worthwhile

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): HG works very well-communication across grids, and using Google+  communities for offline communication.

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I enjoyed the conference immensely.  I love conferences and intellectual, creative gatherings that empower people

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I have highlights of the poster section on my blog

Lee (leezahsmiles): Ghaelen, people can not imagine virtual worlds being anything more than a “game”…

Sheila Yoshikawa: I was interested to learn about Edorable, which sounds rather barren as a VW compared to SL, but an indicator perhaps that there are still initiatives to introduce low-barrier VWs more widely (

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I know, so we will have jobs for a long time, Lee.  Now to get them to sustain us…

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): @sheila in regards to the didactic activity in which i participates. I call attention to a didactic activity involves a lot of development and collaborative work to implement it. (I mean they used a didactic strategy Gamification.) A teacher with little technical knowledge is difficult to perform an activity that size.

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I should say ‘project tasks’

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Ghaelen, that session discussing identity was enjoyable (although voice stopped working for me about half way through)

Marly (marly.milena): Lee, that’s why I agreed to have that article published, to get across the idea that Second Life is a grand place for learning, creating, imagining, etc

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): oh, sorry Sheila.  Yes it was fun and I understand “intense” lol

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I think it was recorded, and I’ll have the paper done in a few days

Lee (leezahsmiles): ((nods)) True Marly

Beth Ghostraven: Marly, I think that article gets it across quite well

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Ghaelen, fault of my graphics card + uni firewall kicked in I think but the transcription meant I could follow a lot, I think

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): oh good, Sheila

Marly (marly.milena): I thought, in my trusting way,that elders would flock to SL after reading it, but that hasn’t happened, at least, not yet

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I loved that part of the conference was in Opensim.

Beth Ghostraven: How did the OpenSim part go for you all?

Marly (marly.milena): I loved introducing the concept of Symnbolic Modeling to many new people this year. Such fun!

Lee (leezahsmiles): There is a learning curve after joining SL and I think people need some hand-holding for a few weeks so that they will want to return, Marly…

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): People are beginning to realize that there’s an entire metaverse of Second Life(s) out there that are affordable and accessible.

Beth Ghostraven: Marly, I think elders are already here, we just can’t always tell :o)

Sheila Yoshikawa: Over the past few months I’ve been thinking I should be publicising what I do more, to colleagues, I sort of gave up for some years – I think there might be more receptiveness than a few years ago

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I agree, Beth

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): I heard nice things about your talk, Marly, though I was unable to attend your session

Marly (marly.milena): Oh, but there are so many more, Beth, who don’t even know it exists!

Lee (leezahsmiles): After four years, I still do not think my settings are correct in my preferences! **chuckles**

Beth Ghostraven: Marly, very true

Beth Ghostraven: in all age groups

Marly (marly.milena): Thanks, Tiff. Anthrop just gave me feedback about a result he got from it which thrilled me

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): OpenSim went well for me.   We used teamspeak rather than voice, but that was not needed.  We use voice in Kitely all the time.

Lee (leezahsmiles): I did not go to OpenSim, Beth…

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Beth re opensim, I found it relatively easy to get in (I am still confused in that I thought an avatar I created for another opensim conf would work, but it didn’t) – I think it did me good to go to another virtual world

anthrop: i loved OpenSim also

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I was able to convince some of my colleagues about using virtual worlds (Opensim, particularly) because I am using medieval religious women as the basis for the world build.  That seems a very ‘safe’ topic to broach.

Sheila Yoshikawa: though I always get obsessed with seeing how I can turn my hair blue and get some nicer shoes  I am sooooo shallow

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): LOL @ Sheila

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): So there’s a point of intersection they identify with

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): and the conferences

Al Supercharge: the hypergrid “slurl” to opensim said not such region 🙁 I was trying from  Francogrid

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Al, when HG tells you no such region, try again, or try a new way, like going the grid center rather than to a specific region.

Al Supercharge: Ok

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Thinkerer I found teamspeak off-putting, a bit, it seemed to work against immersion, plus there were some notifications I couldn’t work out how to switch off

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I even posted a pic of my desk, computer, coffee, and the conference on the screen to show them how to attend. I could feel the ‘dungeons and dragons’ snicker, but most liked it and said “cool”  So that is something, lol

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I have been in OpenSim since 2013 and have found it to good and getting better.

Lee (leezahsmiles): Ebbe Linden says that SL is the fairest of them all! **chuckles**

Sheila Yoshikawa: So I think Aruianne mentioned Ebbe’s talk–it was too late for me. Did anyone else go?

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I did

Beth Ghostraven: I went

Lee (leezahsmiles): There were many questions on Project Sansar

anthrop: What i liked about OpenSim against Coursera is the interaction with teacher and colleagues, specially in voice

Al Supercharge: nobody asked about scripting though (the answer is u need to learn javascript or C#)

Sheila Yoshikawa: was anything new being said by Ebbe Linden? or was it much the same?

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): Hmmm – you won’t be able to take your properties to Sansar

Marly (marly.milena): Ebbe answered a lot of questions about Sansar.   Mac users are still second class citizens with this new platform

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): You won’t be able to take your shoes to Sansar

Sheila Yoshikawa: that’s a MAJOR minus (I mean the shoes lol)

Lee (leezahsmiles): I thought it was new that Sansar will have its own currency system…

Beth Ghostraven: much the same, more about Sansar, more assurances that SL and Sansar will run concurrently

Arianne (ariannejp): almost same except clear date of next steps

Beth Ghostraven: Lee, yes, that was new

Serene Jewell: New things about Sansar – No inworld building at least this year, no mac.

Al Supercharge: I think Unity is going so fast LL will never catch up

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): Al, why do you think that?

Al Supercharge: Unity vs Sansar that is

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Lee So, different from Lindens – why – re currency

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): They sound like Sansar is going to be much more regulated by LL and the focus is commercial/expert

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis):  marketing Sansar…  🙂

Beth Ghostraven: Marly, I thought of you when Ebbe said Macs can’t use Sansar yet

Marly (marly.milena): Awww

Lee (leezahsmiles): Sheila, Ebbe said there would be a currency “exchange” system between both virtual worlds….

Marly (marly.milena): As I said on FB or somewhere, I am a loyalist to Macs and Hondas! and to SL. I have no desire to go elsewhere. I also do not own a smartphone but manage to do everything I want to with what I have

Sheila Yoshikawa: 😉 Marly

Arianne (ariannejp): How’s Toyota? lol

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I don’t think I will go to a place where I can’t build

Marly (marly.milena):

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I will go and check it out, Selby, but I’ll get bored. If I wanted that, I’d be in Uru Live all the time – MOULa as it is now

Sheila Yoshikawa: hmmm I wonder who they think will go to Sansar

Marly (marly.milena): Mesh is another glitchy thing that I don’t care about

Sheila Yoshikawa: I think the people who spend money on stuff that others design still like to be able to add little touches like modding something or retinting

Marly (marly.milena): However, I am concerned about what will become obsolete over time

Arianne (ariannejp): Mesh is messy enough lol

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): Not sure, Sheila.  Ebbe didn’t say enough about what it was going to be  – hard to tell who the market is except large commercial companies and professional builders right now

Sheila Yoshikawa: but – the professional builders need to have people to sell things to

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): They don’t seem to want educators, either

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): in my case I would welcome that extra benefits will this new Sansar platform. regarding didactic, more than technical

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): interesting, I spent many years in learning to build, script, etc with mixed results. Lately, I’m convinced it’s more about people (avatars) and community than anything else.

Marly (marly.milena): Right on, Tiff– Including communities of interest like this one

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Blue Mars a couple of times.  Stayed about 20 min. both times.  Looked around.  Pretty, but boring.

Sheila Yoshikawa: yes yes I love the people and community, but it’s nice having the showes as well

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I agree, Tiffany – about 2/3.  I do think being able to interact with one’s surroundings is very important

Sheila Yoshikawa: the shoes OMG my typing is rubbish today, sorry

Marly (marly.milena): It IS exciting to go to Klark’s fabulous animated dance shows.  A real master

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): yes it’s all about the shoes and hair, LOL

Al Supercharge zooms in to Sheila’s feet

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I also believe that the desire to interact and affect that environment will increase as more tools are made available that don’t require such a learning curve

Marly (marly.milena): But, back to VWBPE.  I think the event is an outstanding one in SL and I am glad so many attend and present

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I wear my shoes til they fall apart.  Thank goodness they are digital…

Arianne (ariannejp): Ebbe said that SL & SANSAR is different like as other company’s virtual worlds.

Beth Ghostraven: I know this is off-topic but I have to ask– Al, what is that thing on your head?

Lee (leezahsmiles): ((smirks))

Al Supercharge: if u edit it you will see

Beth Ghostraven: Cyborg Fautocus Eye–I still don’t know what it is, lol


Arianne (ariannejp): I’m afraid users of SL will be divided in 2 groups

Serene Jewell: About VWBPE, it’s too bad it’s only once a year and not an ongoing thing.

Beth Ghostraven: Oh, Serene, tell that to the organizers–then duck! @.@

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): lol, Beth

Serene Jewell: lol Beth!

Sheila Yoshikawa: As usual for the last couple of years I wish that a) I’d been firmer about blocking out time in the day for VWBPE and b) it didn’t have such interesting stuff on in the early hours of my morning…. I’m trying not to keep such mad hours

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): I agree @Ghaelen

Marly (marly.milena): I would like to share what Anthrop said about the impact of my session on him:

Marly (marly.milena): We met before i now recognize you, you explained to me how to symbolize each position in an argument, i used this technique in writing an article and i think it went much better than i usually do

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): yay @Marly

Marly (marly.milena): Sorry, I get so discombobulated when we are introducing or talking about so many things at once

Beth Ghostraven: sorry, Marly

Sheila Yoshikawa: I am frequently discombobulated

Marly (marly.milena): I am imagining a way of creating a chat schemata where one can enter remarks under different headings

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Marly I have moderated live blog post chats where you can do that, but it does mean people fragment into groups, quite a bit; though then people get a bit anxious about where to post, and inevitably people post in the “wrong” place, in my experience. So it only kind of works, esp if you have a lot of new people each time

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Tabbed chat window

Marly (marly.milena): That would be great to try here when we have a lot of content going on, just as an experiment

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): This year’s conference gave me ideas to continue the ideas into individual discussions, workshops, event – keep the theme flowing without as much intensity

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): OK so i actually was only at VWBPE for only about 20 mins this year, because I was on a vacation. Although I had my laptop with me, I really could not focus for too long. It really helped me understand how much time and attention one really needs to bring to this complex medium.

Marly (marly.milena): Uh huh

Arianne (ariannejp): I will be confused on tree lines

Marly (marly.milena): Huh?

Arianne (ariannejp): My laan

Marly (marly.milena): Laan?

Arianne (ariannejp): My main language is Japanese, I’m from Japan, hard to listen everything in English

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): nonetheless, welcome, Arianne

Sheila Yoshikawa: @Arianne thank you for participating and joining us. I always remember I am lucky to have as my first language a language used by many people

Marly (marly.milena): Arianne, thanks for explaining about your challenge with language

Arianne (ariannejp): we have many translators on SL , it will be help for non-english speakers

Al Supercharge: I think most of us utilize SL  to about only 10% of its capability

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): this part of your comment. I find it very important Ghaelen D’Lareh. It would be ideal that virtual worlds can be made available That do not require Such a learning curve

Sheila Yoshikawa: although I can see that @ecoonis, I also think – if a world is complex, you take time to learn about it

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): Yes, ecoonis.  Now to that end I think Edorble (the new VW) has something going for it.

Sheila Yoshikawa: a “simple to learn world” can only take you so far

Sheila Yoshikawa: this physical world is a very complex place

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I am working on cutting down the learning curve for virtual worlds — with community-based entry

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): ok @sheila

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I happen to like the complex – follow one path here, then another there, then learn how to do this, then that.  BUt that takes patience and we humans aren’t very patient

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): That sounds great, Selby

Al Supercharge: case in  point the Simulation demo by Isa Goodman  — had a good HUD but could have had so much more functionality

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Part of the learning goes on the entry website, so people know things before they get in.

Sheila Yoshikawa: yes AI I am aware I am not using the capabilities of SL because i don’t code/programme, however the fact i can do some things i want WITHOUT having to learn to code or find someone who can is a big plus

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I love the meetings and the gatherings, and I also love the doing and learning that don’t leave much time for socializing.

Marly (marly.milena): Ghaelen, it’s the difference between the P (meander and learn along the way) and the J (Me, Go as directly as possible from point a to point b without being pulled by distractions) This is Myers Briggs stuff.

Tiffany Mosienko (ti.mosienko): I think it’s important to understand, that although I  like everyone else experiences technology fatigue, Sansar and other newer worlds probably will have advances that are enjoyable, at least as much as other worlds. Otherwise, what’d be the point of them. I’m so happy with what we’ve got, But I can’t imagine Sansar and its ilk will be just more techy, considering the hype around Oculus and other tech toys

Arianne (ariannejp): I had been on playstation home 5 years VR by game machine, But Sony shutdown it , I am afraid Linden will do it after SANSAR

Sheila Yoshikawa: OK I think I should also be a better moderator here – VWBPE – any other “I wish this had been better” moments? improvements to be made to VWBPE? (sorry if I’m cutting through this very interesting discussion, though)

Beth Ghostraven: speaking of improvements, the organizing committee of VWBPE is eager to hear about your experiences–please take the exit survey, here:

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I would have liked to give a presentation but there seemed to be new (and unappealing) requirements for education. The sections for submitting proposals seemed to take a leap in restrictions

Marly (marly.milena): I had to rewrite my description to satisfy the reviewers

Al Supercharge: if the CALENDAR showed which events were streaming

Shailey Garfield: yes, streaming is helpful when we are at work and can’t access external worlds.

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): what would make it better is to have some stuff spread over longer time.

Shailey Garfield: I agree, Selby. too much is squeezed in and I don’t like parallel sessions as I like to go to all of them.

Al Supercharge: did the text-to-speech demo happen? ( and work)

Sheila Yoshikawa: I was wondering whether the scope needed to be reviewed? for the conference? but perhaps I would like it broadened TOO much?

Sheila Yoshikawa: to be honest I would also be interested in a stream that allowed people to talk about education NOT in VWs, other educational issues

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): but then the VW in VWBPE wouldn’t make sense, Sheila…

Sheila Yoshikawa: no you are right Ghaelen–perhaps i want another conference lol

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): integrated VW with web-based or app-based, I can see

Beth Ghostraven: They’re going to be redesigning the build, too, if you have any comments about that

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): there are a LOT of conferences about virtual that are not about virtual and inworld platforms

Sheila Yoshikawa: but – a lot that are held in SL?

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): probably not as many, Sheila – it is a virtual world

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I have space in Kitely that I can make available if VWER wants to set up lasting displays.

Sheila Yoshikawa: that would be a good idea Selby

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): A sim size or so

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): digital humanities, GIS mapping – web-based games don’t require a 3D world

Beth Ghostraven: You can possibly get your own space in AvaCon too; there’s an application form on their website

Beth Ghostraven: Thank you, Selby!

Marly (marly.milena): There used to be a CESL organization and annual conference for Counselors, Educators and such. It seems to have disappeared and the people who attended that one have slid over into VWBPE or disappeared

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): And promotion on my blog, of course as well as in New Media Arts

Arianne (ariannejp): I was on AVAKIN in a while not AvaCon though

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I’d like to get more involved (looks at life schedule)  Are there meetings I could come to and see what it would entail?

Sheila Yoshikawa: Someone did say in passing – how there were a lot fewer people than, say 5 years ago, at VWBPE, and I think that’s true

Marly (marly.milena): I would like the focus to be broader to explicitly include coaches, counselors et al who work in teaching learning capacities in other ways

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I wasn’t able to go to most of the external exhibits/presentations (outside of the four days) because I had rearranged my schedule to keep those days free and had to get caught up again

Shailey Garfield: I don’t think that there has been any restriction, Marly

Beth Ghostraven: The exhibits are still up, through the end of the month, I think

Sheila Yoshikawa: so i was saying there are actually fewer people attending VWBPE now, I think?

Sheila Yoshikawa: that’s useful to know Beth

Shailey Garfield: yes, people are moving to VR and also to unity 3D.

Marly (marly.milena): I thought the attendance had increased….

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): So I think five days and try to have as many sessions within those would be good.  But I agree, not so many at the same time

Marly (marly.milena): I had more people at both my sessions this year

Sheila Yoshikawa: that’s great Marly

Shailey Garfield: thank you, Beth. are the details of location available?

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): The panels and quadrivia seemed to be well attended, too

Beth Ghostraven: for the exhibits, Shailey?

Shailey Garfield: yes, Beth

Sheila Yoshikawa: are they just in the same place?

Beth Ghostraven: yes, I’ll send those out; if you don’t want them, just delete them

Beth Ghostraven: yes in the same place

Shailey Garfield: ok, thank you, Beth

Beth Ghostraven: there are two sides, east and west

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): the exhibits were awesome

Sheila Yoshikawa: I still haven’t visited, glad there is still time

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): The artist in me likes hosting out there 🙂

Shailey Garfield: yes, indeed, Ghaelen

Sheila Yoshikawa: so only a couple of minutes left

Sheila Yoshikawa: thank you for your usual lively participation

Sheila Yoshikawa: any final summing up about VWBPE

Shailey Garfield: thanks to you, Sheila.

Sheila Yoshikawa: I would say  I AM grateful that it continues–VWBPE I mean

Shailey Garfield: I always wonder you manage and moderate the discussions, Sheila

Shailey Garfield: Awesome skills – you have, Sheila

Sheila Yoshikawa: Next week it will be Kali

Sheila Yoshikawa: I am on holiday lol

ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): 🙂

ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): There were people attending VWBPE in OpenSim instead of in SL.

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow) echoes Sheila’s words

Shailey Garfield: hope that VWBPE can lead to journal publications

Shailey Garfield: something concrete and tangible

Sheila Yoshikawa: yes I hope that stream of articles does not dry up

Shailey Garfield: more publicity on SLED about the conference

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I agree, and I think there’s a nice push for the worlds themselves to become part of the publication

Ghaelen D’Lareh (ghaelen.winnikow): I’m going to do that 🙂 (someday…)

Shailey Garfield: perhaps post-event discussions too on SLED such as exhibits still available etc.

Sheila Yoshikawa: yes it is a hot topic, how to present results of research in a multimodal way, when many journals still can’t cope very well even with 2D illustrations

Shailey Garfield: yes, indeed Sheila

Shailey Garfield: and for us in the UK – whether it is acceptable to funding bodies how it is published

Sheila Yoshikawa: anyway, that is officially the close for this week, so thanks again


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